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   Message 141,412 of 142,602   
   MarkE to John Harshman   
   Re: Mapping the Origins Debate (2/2)   
   05 Sep 25 10:28:31   
   
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   long way from the land, beaten by the waves, for the wind was against   
   them. And in the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on   
   the sea. But when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were   
   terrified, and said, “It is a ghost!” and they cried out in fear. But   
   immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, “Take heart; it is I. Do not be   
   afraid.”   
      
   And Peter answered him, “Lord, if it is you, command me to come to you   
   on the water.” He said, “Come.” So Peter got out of the boat and walked   
   on the water and came to Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid,   
   and beginning to sink he cried out, “Lord, save me.” Jesus immediately   
   reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, “O you of   
   little faith, why did you doubt?” And when they got into the boat, the   
   wind ceased. And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are   
   the Son of God.”   
      
   (Matthew 14:22-33)   
      
   >   
   >> "Given a priori presuppositions, people holding different views   
   >> regarding origins look at the same evidence and come to different   
   >> conclusions. Or they ignore evidence that doesn’t support their   
   >> viewpoint, while touting evidence that does.   
   >   
   > That's true for OEC and YEC, since they are required to ignore almost   
   > every feature of the world, and the evidence they imagine supports their   
   > views is in face imaginary. Not sure what you think the evidence for PE   
   > or DE would be.   
   >> Personally, I agree with Rau that none of the models has a complete   
   >> model with adequate explanations for all of the evidence."   
   >   
   > Nor would we expect to have such a model. If we did, science would be   
   > done. We would know everything.   
   >   
   >> https://cathyduffyreviews.com/homeschool-reviews-core-curricula/   
   >> science/creation-science-intelligent-design/mapping-the-origins-debate#   
   >>   
   >   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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