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   >to a such a degree as to give some individuals full conviction of    
   >supernatural involvement. Biblical miracles served that purpose (not    
   >arguing for their veracity here, just using them to illustrate the    
   >principle). For example:   
   >   
   >Immediately he made the disciples get into the boat and go before him to    
   >the other side, while he dismissed the crowds. And after he had    
   >dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray.    
   >When evening came, he was there alone, but the boat by this time was a    
   >long way from the land, beaten by the waves, for the wind was against    
   >them. And in the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on    
   >the sea. But when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were    
   >terrified, and said, “It is a ghost!” and they cried out in fear. But    
   >immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, “Take heart; it is I. Do not be    
   >afraid.”   
   >   
   >And Peter answered him, “Lord, if it is you, command me to come to you    
   >on the water.” He said, “Come.” So Peter got out of the boat and walked    
   >on the water and came to Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid,    
   >and beginning to sink he cried out, “Lord, save me.” Jesus immediately    
   >reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, “O you of    
   >little faith, why did you doubt?” And when they got into the boat, the    
   >wind ceased. And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are    
   >the Son of God.”   
   >   
   >(Matthew 14:22-33)   
   >   
   >>    
   >>> "Given a priori presuppositions, people holding different views    
   >>> regarding origins look at the same evidence and come to different    
   >>> conclusions. Or they ignore evidence that doesn’t support their    
   >>> viewpoint, while touting evidence that does.   
   >>    
   >> That's true for OEC and YEC, since they are required to ignore almost    
   >> every feature of the world, and the evidence they imagine supports their    
   >> views is in face imaginary. Not sure what you think the evidence for PE    
   >> or DE would be.   
   >>> Personally, I agree with Rau that none of the models has a complete    
   >>> model with adequate explanations for all of the evidence."   
   >>    
   >> Nor would we expect to have such a model. If we did, science would be    
   >> done. We would know everything.   
   >>    
   >>> https://cathyduffyreviews.com/homeschool-reviews-core-curricula/    
   >>> science/creation-science-intelligent-design/mapping-the-origins-debate#   
   >>>   
   >>    
      
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