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   Message 141,480 of 142,579   
   Bob Casanova to All   
   Re: Mapping the Origins Debate   
   09 Sep 25 09:43:00   
   
   From: nospam@buzz.off   
      
   On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 09:43:23 +0100, the following appeared in   
   talk.origins, posted by "Kerr-Mudd, John" :   
      
   >On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 16:58:54 +1000   
   >MarkE  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 9/09/2025 2:19 pm, jillery wrote:   
   >> > On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 17:35:25 +1000, MarkE  wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On 8/09/2025 7:02 am, John Harshman wrote:   
   >> >>> On 9/7/25 6:58 AM, MarkE wrote:   
   >> >>>> On 7/09/2025 11:25 pm, John Harshman wrote:   
   >> >>>>> On 9/7/25 12:51 AM, MarkE wrote:   
   >> >>>>>> On 7/09/2025 12:28 pm, Chris Thompson wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>> This brings me back to my "1000 years" thought exercise. If that   
   >> >>>>>>>> scenario did play out, it would be an instance of science   
   >> >>>>>>>> providing evidence of non-causality. That's the other sharp edge -   
   >> >>>>>>>> evidence from science giving reason to consider explanations   
   >> >>>>>>>> beyond the reach of science.   
   >   
   >Well, let's say you win, and the exact sequence of the OoL is unknowable   
   >by science. So you've got a smoking gun: God did it. But how? why? which   
   >god, and is is the sort that requires constant prayers? Doesn't help a   
   >bit, IMHO.   
   >   
   >But however He did it, he really does seem to be a sloppy molecular   
   >biologist, and leaving stuff to just evolve seems a bit uncaring to me.   
   >   
   "Any deity worthy of a graven image can cobble up a working   
   universe complete with fake fossils in under a week - hey,   
   if you're not omnipotent, there's no real point in being a   
   god. But to start with a big ball of elementary particles   
   and end up with the duckbill platypus without constant   
   twiddling requires a degree of subtlety and the ability to   
   Think Things Through: exactly the qualities I'm looking for   
   when I'm shopping for a Supreme Being." - Lee DeRaud   
      
   -)   
   >   
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    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not   
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