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|    RonO to RonO    |
|    Re: Gish Gallop Icons of creationist den    |
|    15 Sep 25 10:38:34    |
      [continued from previous message]              The ID perps have been putting up junk claims about Jonathan Wells after       his death. He is supposed to have been the Newton of the ID creationist       scam.              https://scienceandculture.com/2025/09/evolutions-stubborn-icons-       eppered-moths-and-miller-urey-still-shambling-along/              The saddest thing about the moth example of Wells regurgitating the       Icons of scientific creationist science denial is that the Wellsian lie       about "no moths on tree trunks" got incorporated from his book into the       Ohio model lesson plan for teaching the ID perp's obfuscation and denial       switch scam in the Ohio public schools. The initial drafts had that       lie, but the section was rewritten instead of deleted. When the       obfuscation and denial had to be supported by a lie the whole section       should have been deleted. Wells knew that he was lying in the book       because it was pointed out that a reference that Wells used had found       10% of the moths in trees on the trunk. When you consider the surface       area of the trunk compared to the rest of the tree (leaves have two       surfaces) 10% was likely more than they expected to have found by chance       association. My guess is that the number was inflated because it was       easier to find moths on the tree trunks than other parts of the tree.       The Wellsian lie was defended on the ARN discussion board as an       "exaggeration" as if fictional Vulcan logic could defend the ID       creationist scam artists.              The moths are just examples of natural selection in action. It doesn't       matter that Gish used to claim that they were still moths. Humans are       still apes, apes are still mammals, mammals are still amniotes, amniotes       are still tetrapod vertebrates etc.              Ron Okimoto              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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