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      [continued from previous message]              >>> few people knew that Maud Menten was a Canadian woman.)       >>       >> Well, at least you tried. I took first year chemistry the year after       >> Herzberg won the Nobel, but he was never mentioned. I didn't come       >> across his name, except in passing, until I took QM two years later.       >       > Incidentally, French students are no more interested than those of       > Guelph in history, in my experience. A few years ago I was talking about       > Monod, Changeux and Jacob in a lecture. I showed a picture of the       > Institut Jacques Monod in Paris, and I asked if anyone could tell me       > what Monod had done to deserve a massive new building in his name: no       > one had any idea. Likewise with Changeux and Jacob.       >              In the late 1970's I took majors Biochemistry at Berkeley. It started       off as a good experience because I had Koshland as an instructor for the       first quarter, but then it went downhill. Koshland had a knack for       making his lectures interesting. The last quarter was taught by       Schekman. It was mostly nucleic acid biochemistry and I was frankly       bored, and at the time I was deeply into doing my undergraduate research       most nights and I ended up sleeping in the class most days because it       was my first morning class. One test question asked how to identify the       tryptophan operon repressor. I answered with how Jacob and Monod had       done it with the lac operon. The answer that he wanted was that       bacterial extracts bound tryptophan in a dialysis bag creating a higher       concentration of tryptophan in the bag compared to the outside solution.        It was probably the only time I went in and tried to get more credit       for any test answer, but Schekman said that my answer was a genetic       answer and not biochemistry. Even though his answer only indicated that       something had an affinity for tryptophan inside the dialysis bag and was       not direct evidence for identification of a tryptophan repressor he       would not accept a correct answer. He even told me that my answer was       correct. As crazy as this exchange was Schekman ended up getting the       Nobel prize for integrating genetics and Biochemistry years later, but       at the time he was a new hire in the biochemistry department.              Ron Okimoto              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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