From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/11/2025 12:19 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   > On 10/11/25 7:55 AM, jillery wrote:   
   >   
   >> As far as I can tell   
   >   
   > That's not exactly "Far."   
   >   
   >> IOW yet more made-up facts.   
   >   
   > Then why wasn't there a pandemic wiping out Mexico and other   
   > countries south of the border?  They didn't wipe out their   
   > egg producing stock. Their prices stayed low. Yet, no viruses   
   > to worry about.   
   >   
   The B3.13 virus did kill off a lot of wild birds and even penquins got   
   infected in South America, and it did infect some zoo cats (tigers and   
   lions I recall) and seals along the pacific coast, but it never infected   
   dairy cattle south of the border as far as anyone ever admitted.  It   
   became an issue in dairies and commercial poultry farms in the US   
   because the USDA and CDC never restricted dairy worker movements.  They   
   knew that most of the herds that were getting infected did not share   
   cattle, but that dairy workers on infected farms were known to work at   
   more than one dairy, and that dairy workers from infected dairies also   
   worked on some of the Michigan commercial layer farms that got infected,   
   but dairy worker testing was never implemented, nor were the workers   
   restricted from going from farm to farm.  By the time California got   
   infected it was well known that dairy worker movements should be   
   restricted, but everyone remained in denial, and the result was that   
   over 80% of the California dairy herds got infected even though they   
   immediately restricted cattle movements between farms, and they lost   
   over 40% of the commercial layer farms because they would not restrict   
   dairy worker movements off infected farms.  By the time that California   
   was infected they knew that at least 10% of the dairy workers at   
   infected dairies had been infected, and they knew that they were   
   shedding infective virus because the first viral culture was created   
   from samples taken from the first infected dairy worker identified in Texas.   
      
   The short answer is that it became a dairy and poultry epidemic in the   
   US because dairy worker testing and contact tracing was never   
   implemented and the virus was allowed to spread to more states and more   
   dairies and poultry farms.  The spread continues because states are   
   being reinfected, and you can go to the GISAID web site and see that   
   Idaho has now been infected with the California strain of the virus.  If   
   you look at the phylogeny you will see that all the California   
   infections form a separate clade from the states that got infected from   
   Texas.  Idaho was initially infected by the Texas strain, but the new   
   infections are due to the California lineage.  Nebraska just got   
   infected by the California virus.   
      
   > And how do you explain the cat food claims?  It's not raw.   
   > If deadly viruses are surviving cooking, we're all already   
   > dead!  Can't that severel disordered mind grasp this?   
      
   I do not know why you keep lying about raw cat food when all the   
   articles state that the virus infected the cats through raw pet food.   
      
   >   
   > It's not difficult.   
      
   It isn't difficult to stop lying, just stop.   
      
   >   
   > The collective is NOT describing any virus that exists in   
   > nature. It's either a hoax, made up, or another lab produced   
   > virus that was induced within the food supply.   
   >   
   > There is no other options. Either someone inserted this virus   
   > into our food supply or there is no actual virus, not one   
   > that can threaten us.   
   >   
   This is just stupid.  The history of H5N1 that I have given to you in   
   other posts in this thread reflects just a normal spread of a high path   
   avian influenza.  H5N1 is only one high path lineage.  At this time is   
   happens to be the one that is most infecting humans.  There are other   
   High path and low path avian influenza strains that infect humans from   
   time to time, but H5N1 has a history of high mortality (50% of those   
   infected in Europe and Asia have died).  The B3.13 and D1.1 genotypes   
   are reassorted virus so the original H5N1 has recombined with other   
   avian influenza strains.  No one has died from being infected with B3.13   
   and only one person died out of about a dozen infected with the D1.1   
   genotype.  Two D1.1 survivors did have to go into intensive care, and   
   one of them was in critical condition at one time, but it looks like the   
   reassorted virus are less pathogenic than the H5N1 virus that is still   
   in Europe and Asia.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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