From: 69jpil69@gmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 09:15:58 -0500, RonO    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 10/18/2025 4:48 AM, jillery wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 19:59:15 -0600, Pro Plyd   
   >> wrote:   
   >>    
   >>> jillery wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 22:54:09 +0100, Ernest Major   
   >>>>> On 16/10/2025 19:24, RonO wrote:   
   >>>>>> Early in the ID scam I recall that Behe and Phillip Johnson were   
   >>>>>> supposed to have had ties to Christian reconstructionist groups, but   
   >>>>>> that association is no longer mentioned, though Phillip Johnson was   
   >>>>>> supposed to be instrumental in securing funding from Ahmanson (noted to   
   >>>>>> be associated with Christian reconstruction).   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Behe is a Catholic. One would not expect Catholics to have ties to   
   >>>>> Reconstructionist groups. One rather would expect them to be opposed to   
   >>>>> Reconstructionism.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> An irony is Kenneth R. Miller also identifies as Catholic, yet is a   
   >>>> vocal and voluminous critic of ID and Michael Behe's Irreducible   
   >>>> Complexity.   
   >>> But apparently not practicing catholics?   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> Not clear what your question means. My understanding is in the U.S.   
   >> there is a schism among members similar to a schism in the general   
   >> population, between political/social conservatives and progressives.   
   >> How an individual identifies depends on the specific Church teachings   
   >> they prioritize. Based on what I have read what Behe and Miller have   
   >> written, I would guess Miller is more progressive, while Behe is more   
   >> conservative.   
   >>    
   >   
   >Both claim to attend Mass regularly. I recall one of the ID    
   >documentaries had a video clip of Miller taking Communion.   
   >   
   >Ron Okimoto   
      
      
   Not sure that attending Mass makes any difference to Catholics'   
   politics. Joe Biden also attends mass regularly, to the regret of   
   some RC bishops.   
      
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