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   On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 22:08:48 -0600, Pro Plyd   
    wrote:   
      
   >jillery wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 08:24:20 -0500, RonO    
   >>> On 10/24/2025 4:00 AM, jillery wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 08:44:00 -0500, RonO    
   >>>>> On 10/23/2025 3:35 AM, jillery wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 14:49:18 -0500, RonO    
   >>>>>>> On 10/21/2025 10:20 AM, Pro Plyd wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> RonO wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 10/18/2025 4:48 AM, jillery wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 19:59:15 -0600, Pro Plyd   
   >>>>>>>>>>> jillery wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 22:54:09 +0100, Ernest Major   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/10/2025 19:24, RonO wrote:   
   >...   
   >>> My recollection is that Ham believes in the single original creation as   
   >>> described in the Bible.  He is not a recreationist like the Reason to   
   >>> Believe creationist.  That is why he has animals like ambulocetus (the   
   >>> walking whale) on his Ark.  All extant animals with the breath of life   
   >>> evolved from the pairs of kinds on the Ark.  That is what they claim in   
   >>> their Museum when I visited it.  They were claiming that all cat kinds   
   >>> (from Tabby to the sabertoothed monsters of the ice age that occurred   
   >>> after the flood) and dog kinds (from foxes to wolves) evolved from the   
   >>> same pair of cat kind and dog kind on the Ark.  Some of them are more   
   >>> divergent than humans are to orangutans.   
   >>    
   >> Your recollection shows that Creationists like Ken Ham accept   
   >> modification *within* kinds.  An irony to that acceptance is it   
   >> requires hyper-fast evolution since the Flood in order to account for   
   >> the diversity of life that we observe today.   
   >   
   >It never ceases to amaze me (and amuse me) how cretinist types   
   >are unfazed by the chronological contortions they are willing   
   >to go through...   
   >   
   >> "Recreationists" might also accept modifications within kinds, but   
   >> they also apply IC, and that's what puts them into the *not*   
   >> biological and *not* science Creationist camp.   
      
      
   Hyper-fast evolution since the Flood is just one of many logical   
   paradoxes which various Creationists inflict on themselves.  A   
   favorite from Gutsick Gibbon is the melting of the Earth's crust due   
   to radioactive heat since the Flood their arguments require.   
      
      
      
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