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   RonO to All   
   There is no legitimate scientific suppor   
   04 Nov 25 09:36:23   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   I asked Google: "Is there any legitimate scientific support for the   
   Discovery Institute's alleged intelligent design science?"   
      
   The Google response was short and concise.   
      
   Google response:   
   No, there is no legitimate scientific support for the Discovery   
   Institute's intelligent design (ID) claims, and major scientific   
   organizations have classified it as pseudoscience. The scientific   
   community rejects ID because it lacks testable, empirical evidence, is   
   not based on naturalistic explanations, and relies on supernatural   
   intervention.   
      
   Lack of empirical evidence: Proponents of intelligent design have not   
   presented any empirical evidence to support their claims.   
      
   Untestable hypothesis: ID is not a scientific theory because its central   
   claim—that a supernatural entity designed life—cannot be tested,   
   falsified, or disproven by scientific methods.   
      
   Non-naturalistic explanation: Science operates under the principle of   
   naturalism, meaning it seeks natural explanations for phenomena. ID   
   introduces a supernatural agent, which is outside the scope of   
   scientific inquiry.   
      
   Rejection by scientific bodies: Leading scientific organizations,   
   including the National Academy of Sciences and the American Association   
   for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), have stated that intelligent   
   design is not science and is considered a form of pseudoscience.   
   END Google response:   
      
   Why can't creationist rubes deal with this reality?  There are still   
   creationist rubes in West Virginia and the Dakotas that want to teach   
   the nonexistent ID science.  The ID perps have never stopped claiming to   
   be able to teach the science of intelligent design in the public schools   
   in their written propaganda.  Nelson started admitting that the ID   
   science had never existed once the bait and switch started in 2002.  He   
   started claiming that the ID perps didn't have any ID science, yet, but   
   that they were working on creating some. Nelson was YEC and he would   
   have never signed up to support the Wedge if the other ID perps had   
   really had any valid ID science.  All Behe's IC systems had been   
   designed over half a billion years ago, and Meyer was making a big deal   
   about how his designer was responsible for creating the multicellular   
   animals during a 25 million year period over half a billion years ago.   
   25 million years was a period of time that Meyer claimed was too short   
   to be accounted for by natural evolution.  Phillip Johnson sat in the   
   Kitzmiller court room every day of testimony and then admitted that the   
   ID science had never existed.  He could only claim that some ID science   
   might someday be accomplished.   
      
   If the ID perps had really had any legitimate ID science to teach in the   
   public schools they would not have had to run a stupid and dishonest   
   bait and switch scam on their own creationist support base for over 23   
   years.  It is crazy that there are still creationist rubes that fall for   
   the ID scam bait.  This is likely a case where creationist rubes could   
   be helped out by AI, but reality is that creationists IDiots like we had   
   on TO only supported the ID scam in order to be lied to by the ID perps.   
     Even MarkE never wanted the ID perps to fill their gaps with some   
   other god that was not the Biblical god.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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