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|    RonO to All    |
|    There is no legitimate scientific suppor    |
|    04 Nov 25 09:36:23    |
      From: rokimoto557@gmail.com              I asked Google: "Is there any legitimate scientific support for the       Discovery Institute's alleged intelligent design science?"              The Google response was short and concise.              Google response:       No, there is no legitimate scientific support for the Discovery       Institute's intelligent design (ID) claims, and major scientific       organizations have classified it as pseudoscience. The scientific       community rejects ID because it lacks testable, empirical evidence, is       not based on naturalistic explanations, and relies on supernatural       intervention.              Lack of empirical evidence: Proponents of intelligent design have not       presented any empirical evidence to support their claims.              Untestable hypothesis: ID is not a scientific theory because its central       claim—that a supernatural entity designed life—cannot be tested,       falsified, or disproven by scientific methods.              Non-naturalistic explanation: Science operates under the principle of       naturalism, meaning it seeks natural explanations for phenomena. ID       introduces a supernatural agent, which is outside the scope of       scientific inquiry.              Rejection by scientific bodies: Leading scientific organizations,       including the National Academy of Sciences and the American Association       for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), have stated that intelligent       design is not science and is considered a form of pseudoscience.       END Google response:              Why can't creationist rubes deal with this reality? There are still       creationist rubes in West Virginia and the Dakotas that want to teach       the nonexistent ID science. The ID perps have never stopped claiming to       be able to teach the science of intelligent design in the public schools       in their written propaganda. Nelson started admitting that the ID       science had never existed once the bait and switch started in 2002. He       started claiming that the ID perps didn't have any ID science, yet, but       that they were working on creating some. Nelson was YEC and he would       have never signed up to support the Wedge if the other ID perps had       really had any valid ID science. All Behe's IC systems had been       designed over half a billion years ago, and Meyer was making a big deal       about how his designer was responsible for creating the multicellular       animals during a 25 million year period over half a billion years ago.       25 million years was a period of time that Meyer claimed was too short       to be accounted for by natural evolution. Phillip Johnson sat in the       Kitzmiller court room every day of testimony and then admitted that the       ID science had never existed. He could only claim that some ID science       might someday be accomplished.              If the ID perps had really had any legitimate ID science to teach in the       public schools they would not have had to run a stupid and dishonest       bait and switch scam on their own creationist support base for over 23       years. It is crazy that there are still creationist rubes that fall for       the ID scam bait. This is likely a case where creationist rubes could       be helped out by AI, but reality is that creationists IDiots like we had       on TO only supported the ID scam in order to be lied to by the ID perps.        Even MarkE never wanted the ID perps to fill their gaps with some       other god that was not the Biblical god.              Ron Okimoto              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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