From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/4/2025 1:32 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   >   RonO wrote:   
   >   
   >> I asked Google: "Is there any legitimate scientific support for the   
   >> Discovery Institute's alleged intelligent design science?"   
   >   
   > Okay, so what about these psuedo scientific nimrods that believe   
   > in abiogenesis DESPITE all failures to reproduce it under   
   > laboratory conditions?   
      
   You likely understand that abiogenesis has always been among the weakest   
   of scientific endeavors.  They don't even expect to figure out how life   
   actually started on this planet.  They understand that they can only   
   identify the most likely scenario, and not what actually may have   
   happened.  It is considered to be science because they can test their   
   proposals, they just can't determine if things actually happened that   
   way or by some other way.   
      
   >   
   > What about the fakers who think SETI is science even though it   
   > can't be falsified?   
      
   SETI had always been viewed as a fishing experiment and not truly   
   science.  It is a search for something that may not exist.  They are   
   just looking for intelligence capable of sending interstellar radio   
   signals.  It is scientific in that it is just an observation of nature,   
   and they will have to try to interpret anything of interest that they   
   might observe.  It would appear to be a waste of time because they know   
   that our own radio wave emissions probably become indistinguishable from   
   background radiation within a couple light years distance, and we have   
   only had such capabilities for a couple of centuries, and we have no   
   intention of sending out consistent signals that could be picked up and   
   interpreted at realistic search distances.  They are hoping to find some   
   aliens willing to do something that we currently aren't willing to put   
   viable effort into.  You have to depend on someone consistently sending   
   signals in your direction for, likely, centuries.   
      
   SETI has always faced these limitations, but some people just like to go   
   fishing.  You should know why if you are a fly fisherman.  Catching fish   
   isn't the only thing that you get from going fishing.   
      
   >   
   > What about the ignorant fakers who outsource their thoughts to   
   > authority figures, and pretend they're "Scientific?"   
   More projection doesn't help your case.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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