From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/6/2025 1:56 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   > On 11/6/25 11:53 AM, RonO wrote:   
   >   
   >> You need to deal with what the ID scam actually is   
   > What's the legitimate scientific support for SETI?   
      
   SETI isn't claiming to have a scientific theory that can be taught in   
   the public schools in order to support anyones religious beliefs.   
      
   What a nut job.   
      
   I don't think that SETI even claims to have legitimate scientific   
   support except for their equipment and methods.  The proposition that   
   they are testing is that something is out there sending signals worth   
   detecting.  Unlike the ID perps the SETI people are actually looking for   
   the evidence that would support their hypothesis.  The ID perps don't   
   even construct testable hypotheses.  Even the ones that they claim are   
   testable, they never bother doing the testing.   
      
   In Science what they are doing is called fishing.  They have an   
   hypothesis, and they are testing that hypothesis by doing a search for   
   evidence that their hypothesis may be correct.  They are collecting data   
   and observations that are their only means to test their hypothesis, but   
   it is an endeavor that could go on forever and tell them nothing.  It is   
   called fishing.  You start making observations and hope that you find   
   something that you can interpret in some meaningful way.  It isn't good   
   science, but it is hypothesis testing.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
   >   
   > What's the legitimate scientific support for abiogenesis?   
      
   Plenty, what a nut job.  We exist, and we have evidence that some type   
   of life existed on this planet possibly as early over 3.5 billion years   
   ago (within a billion years of the creation of our planet).  Abiogenesis   
   is one of the weakest of scientific endeavors because they do not expect   
   to figure out how life arose on this planet.  All that they can expect   
   to figure out is the most likely way that life arose on this planet, not   
   the way that it actually arose.   
      
   >   
   > Oo!  Maybe the fact that EVERY! SINGLE! ABIOGENESIS!   
   > HYPOTHESIS! EVER! TESTED! HAS! FAILED!   
      
   Just a nut job.   
      
   >   
   > Is that the legitimate scientific support?   
      
   It is support for you being a nut job.   
      
   >   
   > The point is, fix you. Stop pissing yourself silly   
   > because you imagine others don't agree with you. Fix   
   > you. Fix your extensive list of flaws.   
   >   
   > Ne the best you, because this isn't it.   
      
   Projection is pretty lame.  Why do you keep doing it?  It is supposed to   
   be some type of defense mechanism, but you have to know what you are   
   doing in order to do it.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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