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   RonO to All   
   Homo habilis hunted as prey, so what?   
   07 Nov 25 20:23:21   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   https://scienceandculture.com/2025/09/not-a-turning-point-study-   
   inds-homo-habilis-was-hunted-as-prey/   
      
   The ID perps are trying to make a big deal about the evidence that Homo   
   habilis was sometimes eaten by leopards.  For some reason this means   
   that they were not Homo.  It is a stupid claim.  They seem to just want   
   to claim that Homo did not evolve from Australopithicines.  H. habilis   
   is likely the perfect intermediate between Australopithecines and Homo   
   erectus.  It had the parabolic jaw of Homo with a brain significantly   
   larger than Australopithecines.  It was still partially arboreal because   
   it had Australopithecine limb proportions (longer arms and shorter   
   legs), while H. erectus had modern human limb proportions.   
      
   Why wouldn't H. habilis have been eaten by leopards?  There is no   
   indication that they were apex predators.  Even H. erectus never   
   developed stone spear points and the best that they might have had were   
   sharpened sticks, and maybe clubs. The H. erectus hand axes were thought   
   to have been used to dig out roots and tubers.  The flake tools were   
   likely used to cut up meat and process hides.   
      
   This seems to be an example of how pathetically lame ID has become.   
   This kind of junk is more important to them than demonstrating that the   
   ID science actually exists.   
      
   They put out their Top Six best evidences for ID back in 2017, shouldn't   
   they have some type of review about how well they have done with that   
   evidence by now? Those Top Six were all used by the scientific   
   creationists long before the ID scam started with the creation of the   
   Discovery Institute's ID scam unit.  Really, the Scientific creationists   
   had their gap denial arguments about the Big Bang, find tuning, the   
   origin of life, the flagellum as a designed machine, the Cambrian   
   explosion, and gaps in the fossil record by the beginning of the 1980's.   
      
   The only thing that they seem to have done with the Top Six is remove   
   IC, the Cambrian explosion and the Big Bang from the list and put the   
   rest out of temporal order so they can keep fooling the rubes with the   
   junk.  It has been 8 years.  What progress have they made with what   
   remains of the Top Six?   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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