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   RonO to Vincent Maycock   
   Re: James Watson has died (2/2)   
   09 Nov 25 10:22:53   
   
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   >> programs.  Desegregation was 3 decades in the past, but that is just how   
   >> it was.  Today African American quarterbacks are fairly common.  It is   
   >> sad that this has not always been so.   
   >   
   > Sad indeed.  Many bright young black QBs have shown that blacks can be   
   > as good as whites at managing and leading a team effectively, contrary   
   > to what used to be popular belief.   
   >   
   >> My take is that once Africa gets it's act together and implements a good   
   >> universal education program coupled with decent nutrition that the world   
   >> will benefit from the brain power that gets uncovered.   
   >   
   > True, but it's doubtful that the entire two-standard deviation   
   > difference between Africans and American whites can be eliminated by   
   > environmental factors such as nutrition and education.   
      
   There are likely other cultural factors involved.  Neither of my parents   
   went to college.  Higher education was never discussed in our house.  I   
   had gotten to know my brother's Fifth grade teacher that had an interest   
   in nature like I did, and I would spend time in his classroom because he   
   had all kinds of taxidermy and some live animals.  He told me that I   
   could become a biologist, and that they paid people to do that type of   
   thing, but I had to go to college.  College seemed so impossible that I   
   gave up on the notion, but my parents did not.  A few years later they   
   told all their children that College was a possiblity.  At the time I   
   was not a very good student, and I was in classes like remedial English   
   in Junior High School, but when I entered High School my class counselor   
   told me that I had to get good grades to get into College.  Since I had   
   done so poorly in Junior High school they put me in the C level classes   
   (there were A, B, and C level classes for the basic education classes).   
   My C level English instructor thought that I shouldn't be in his class   
   because I was doing A level work.  He checked my file and told me that   
   my IQ level meant that I should be in the gifted program at the High   
   School.  He got me transferred to all A level classes.   
      
   I eventually got accepted to UC Berkeley and started my science career   
   in their undergraduate research program.   
      
   You also have examples like Watson with significant African genetics.   
   If you check the the population genetics of African Americans, a lot of   
   them that can be identified as African Americans are not very African.   
   The Average African American has over 25% non African genetics.  A 23   
   and Me study on self identified African Americans (around 100   
   individuals out of 6500) had less than 2% African genetics.  They were   
   98% out of Africa genetics.  The 23 and Me mean African genetics (73%)   
   was close to the 1000 genome estimate of the African Americans used in   
   that population.   
      
   Have African Americans just inherited all the wrong out of Africa   
   genetics, and guys like Watson just happened to inherit some good   
   African Genetics?   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
   >   
   >> Ron Okimoto   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Imagine what Watson might have accomplished if some grandfather or   
   >>>> something hadn't picked up those awful African alleles.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> (full disclosure:  it's a joke, of course.  I don't want to be stripped   
   >>>> of my Nobel prize.)   
   >>>   
   >   
      
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