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|    Vincent Maycock to RonO    |
|    Re: James Watson has died (2/2)    |
|    09 Nov 25 15:12:53    |
      [continued from previous message]              >> as good as whites at managing and leading a team effectively, contrary       >> to what used to be popular belief.       >>       >>> My take is that once Africa gets it's act together and implements a good       >>> universal education program coupled with decent nutrition that the world       >>> will benefit from the brain power that gets uncovered.       >>       >> True, but it's doubtful that the entire two-standard deviation       >> difference between Africans and American whites can be eliminated by       >> environmental factors such as nutrition and education.       >       >There are likely other cultural factors involved. Neither of my parents       >went to college. Higher education was never discussed in our house. I       >had gotten to know my brother's Fifth grade teacher that had an interest       >in nature like I did, and I would spend time in his classroom because he       >had all kinds of taxidermy and some live animals. He told me that I       >could become a biologist, and that they paid people to do that type of       >thing, but I had to go to college. College seemed so impossible that I       >gave up on the notion, but my parents did not. A few years later they       >told all their children that College was a possiblity. At the time I       >was not a very good student, and I was in classes like remedial English       >in Junior High School, but when I entered High School my class counselor       >told me that I had to get good grades to get into College. Since I had       >done so poorly in Junior High school they put me in the C level classes       >(there were A, B, and C level classes for the basic education classes).       >My C level English instructor thought that I shouldn't be in his class       >because I was doing A level work. He checked my file and told me that       >my IQ level meant that I should be in the gifted program at the High       >School. He got me transferred to all A level classes.       >       >I eventually got accepted to UC Berkeley and started my science career       >in their undergraduate research program.       >       >You also have examples like Watson with significant African genetics.       >If you check the the population genetics of African Americans, a lot of       >them that can be identified as African Americans are not very African.       >The Average African American has over 25% non African genetics. A 23       >and Me study on self identified African Americans (around 100       >individuals out of 6500) had less than 2% African genetics. They were       >98% out of Africa genetics. The 23 and Me mean African genetics (73%)       >was close to the 1000 genome estimate of the African Americans used in       >that population.       >       >Have African Americans just inherited all the wrong out of Africa       >genetics, and guys like Watson just happened to inherit some good       >African Genetics?              Yeah, there was a lot of white/black admixture among the Africans who       were brought over from Africa and enslaved, as should be evident by       just looking at African blacks and African-American blacks. And       although the *average* black IQ among African Americans is depressed       by one standard deviation relative to American whites, *individual*       blacks can rise to eminence in cognitively demanding fields despite       this statistical trend.              >Ron Okimoto       >       >>       >>> Ron Okimoto       >>>       >>>>       >>>>> Imagine what Watson might have accomplished if some grandfather or       >>>>> something hadn't picked up those awful African alleles.       >>>>>       >>>>> (full disclosure: it's a joke, of course. I don't want to be stripped       >>>>> of my Nobel prize.)       >>>>       >>              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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