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   On Fri, 14 Nov 2025 08:41:09 -0600, RonO    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 11/14/2025 3:04 AM, jillery wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 17:51:59 +0000, Martin Harran   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>    
   >>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2025 10:15:16 -0600, RonO    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> [...]   
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   >>>   
   >>>> The Bible is just wrong about a lot of things.   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> More accurately, the Bible is factually incorrect about a lot of   
   >> things.   
   >   
   >Same thing.   
      
      
   "Factually incorrect" is a verifiable, objective error ex. 2+2=33.   
   "wrong" can be an opinion, ex. slavery is acceptable, or an   
   irrelevance, ex. vegans like Beethoven.  There are many ways   
   statements can be factually correct and wrong, or factually incorrect   
   and truthful.     
      
      
   >>> No it's not - it's people who read the Bible wrong.   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> The Bible begs to be read wrong.  More to the point, those who decide   
   >> the "correct" reading of the Bible historically are the ones who read   
   >> it wrong.   
   >>    
   >There are so many "factually incorrect" statements in the Bible about    
   >nature (the creation) and a lot of them are unnecessarily included in    
   >the "metaphorical" presentation that it makes the Bible pretty much    
   >impossible to use as any type of narrative providing accurate depictions    
   >of nature.   
   >   
   >Saint Augustine was correct that no one should use the Bible to deny    
   >things about nature that we can figure out for ourselves.   
   >   
   >Ron Okimoto   
      
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