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   RonO to Martin Harran   
   Re: There is no legitimate scientific su   
   14 Nov 25 09:38:34   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/14/2025 7:13 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   > On Fri, 14 Nov 2025 13:04:12 +0000, Martin Harran   
   >  wrote:   
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   >> No, it's most certainly not true. heliocentrism was *never* a heresy -   
   >> you clearly don't even understand what the term "formal heresy" means.   
   >   
   > You really should educate yourself on this rather than continuing to   
   > make stupid claims that heliocentrism being a "formal heresy".   
   >   
   > https://acatholiclife.blogspot.com/2019/10/formal-vs-material-heresy.html   
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   The anti geocentric catholics make a big deal about the difference   
   between formal heresy and just a heresy.  They wanted the Pope to not be   
   associated with a formal heresy charge, but even they admitted that the   
   Inquisition had made heliocentrism into a formal heresy charge when   
   Galileo first faced the charge.  The anti geocentrics just claim that   
   the Inquisition case against Galileo was not adopted by the court when   
   the Pope got involved.  So both Catholic sides of the issue know that it   
   was deemed to be a formal heresy.  One side just does not want it to   
   have been a formal heresy charge when the Pope was involved.  The wiki   
   also notes that it was deemed to be a formal heresy the first time   
   Galileo faced the charge.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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