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   MarkE to MarkE   
   Re: ID's assertion and definition of a "   
   17 Nov 25 17:31:28   
   
   From: me22over7@gmail.com   
      
   On 17/11/2025 4:55 pm, MarkE wrote:   
   > A recent SCT (formerly EN) article* cites a core ID claim: "this type of   
   > specified information always comes from a mind."   
   >   
   > TO is probably an inadvisable place to ask (free hit, Ron), but does   
   > anyone know of an ID definition of "mind"?   
   >   
   > The ID position suggests that a mind is at least partially non-material,   
   > which gives rise to issues of agency, causality, shifting the problem,   
   > etc, as well as questions on the relationship and interaction of our   
   > physical brain and "mind".   
   >   
   > * https://scienceandculture.com/2025/11/lifes-informational-   
   > discontinuities-where-unintelligent-processes-fail/   
   >   
      
   "Indeed, no intelligent agent who is strictly physical could have   
   presided over the origin of the universe or the origin of life."   
   (Dembski, https://www.discovery.org/a/119/)   
      
   "Information is a massless, immaterial entity — it has no weight, no   
   charge, no spatial dimension. Thus, the ultimate explanation for   
   information in DNA must involve a mind."   
   (Meyer, somewhere...)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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