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|    RonO to erik simpson    |
|    Re: Latest on Neanderthal DNA (2/2)    |
|    18 Nov 25 18:41:45    |
      [continued from previous message]              > markers, sometimes both.       >              There is nothing racist about this reality. The sloped forehead or the       Denisovan brow ridges are just cosmetic features. Everyone that is       decended from the group of Modern humans that left Africa around 60,000       years ago have a couple percent Neanderthal DNA in their genomes. Most       of it is the same 20% of the Neanderthal genome dispersed in most of us       (possibly, due to selection), but the claim is that if you sequence over       100,000 out of Africa genomes that they might be able to account for       around 80% of the Neanderthal genome. Certain populations of Europeans       and Asians may have more Neanderthal DNA than most others, and they       think that is just due to founder effects because they have the same       portion of the Neanderthal genome that the rest of us have, they just       have more of it. Though they have found fossils of hybrids in Europe       and Asia that occurred more recently than the first introgression it       doesn't look like the Neanderthal DNA in those hybrids made it into the       extant population. They look like dead end family groups that left no       ancestors, or not a significant number to leave much of a trace today.              This just means that for an obviously recessive or complex trait like       the sloped forehead it should be rare to get the Neanderthal genes       together to produce that phenotype. Trump did not pass the trait to his       progeny so it is recessive or you need multiple Neanderthal gene       variants to see the trait. Some Europeans sport Neanderthal brow       ridges. They are not as pronounced as the Denisovan brow ridges of the       Australoids. My guess is that the Australoid brow ridges were likely       selected by sexual selection among that group, though some New Guineans       have 12% Denisovan DNA (just 2 generations from the hybrid generation,       if all matings were backcrosses with modern humans, would produce 12.5%       Denisovan DNA). This is a significant amount, but a lot of the       individuals from the same population have a lot less, but still sport       the heavy brow ridges. It may be a trait that was preferred for some       reason.              Ron Okimoto              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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