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   >Ron Okimoto   
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   >>    
   >> A philosophical problem arguments like Sticks presents here is, they   
   >> *assume* their initial uncaused cause is supernatural, but refuse to   
   >> consider an initial natural uncaused cause.  IOW they change the rules   
   >> depending on whose cause they're talking about; a juvenile word game.   
   >>    
   >> OTOH scientists recognize that an uncaused cause logically doesn't   
   >> explain anything.  They recognize that *all* origin narratives   
   >> *necessarily* begin with an *unknown* cause.  Unknown does not mean   
   >> supernatural or natural.  It just means it's not known at this time.   
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