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   Message 141,860 of 142,579   
   Mark Isaak to MarkE   
   Re: ID's assertion and definition of a "   
   19 Nov 25 16:18:24   
   
   From: specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net   
      
   On 11/16/25 9:55 PM, MarkE wrote:   
   > A recent SCT (formerly EN) article* cites a core ID claim: "this type of   
   > specified information always comes from a mind."   
      
   Note, however, that "specified information" is another term for "copied   
   information", and there is probably nothing that biology does more than   
   making copies.   
      
   > TO is probably an inadvisable place to ask (free hit, Ron), but does   
   > anyone know of an ID definition of "mind"?   
   >   
   > The ID position suggests that a mind is at least partially non-material,   
   > which gives rise to issues of agency, causality, shifting the problem,   
   > etc, as well as questions on the relationship and interaction of our   
   > physical brain and "mind".   
   >   
   > * https://scienceandculture.com/2025/11/lifes-informational-   
   > discontinuities-where-unintelligent-processes-fail/   
      
   The mind is what the brain does (besides burning energy). Some people   
   want it to mean more, but wanting it to be so does not make it so.   
      
   --   
   Mark Isaak   
   "Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That   
   doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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