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   the purposes of telling time and things like planetary motion that he   
   left restrictions on questioning the beliefs of the Church Fathers in   
   place.  The anti geocentrists quoted the entire decree and could only   
   say that the remaining restrictions were never stated in the document.   
   The Pope only wrote that authors had to ask the church offices to   
   determine if what they wanted to publish was not restricted.  Isn't that   
   nuts?  That was nearly 2 centuries after Galileo was convicted and the   
   church still could not admit that they were wrong about that.  It took   
   until 1992 for the Pope to formally apologize for the mishandling of the   
   Galileo case, and admitted that it was due to scriptural interpretation,   
   and the improper interpretation of a scientific matter as a threat to faith.   
      
   >   
   >> You are a third party   
   >> Catholic that is just wrong about this issue.  It is a stupid thing to   
   >> be wrong about.  You know for a fact that Biblical creationist Catholics   
   >> have been wrong about a lot of things.  It isn't just heliocentrism.   
   >> There are still flat earth Catholics, young earth Catholics, geocentric   
   >> catholics etc.  These people still exist to make your position a stupid   
   >> one to maintain.   
   >   
   > What is stupid is you trying to claim that the opinions of such idiots   
   > overrule the Church’s theologians and reputable historians.   
      
   Your side of the issue is the one concentrating on ass saving instead of   
   dealing with reality.  All your Church theologians and reputable   
   historians should know that the Church Fathers were all geocentrists,   
   and that should be the end of this story.  They were just wrong about   
   what scripture told them about the world.  The Inquisition heresy issue   
   is due to their interpretation of scripture.   
      
   >   
   > I also note that you still can’t identify even one “anti-geocentrist”   
   > who supports you as you continuously claim.   
   >   
   >   
   Why lie about getting all those links last time?  They had a whole web   
   site and I got multiple links from that web site.  You just denied   
   reality and ran.   
      
   Look what you are still doing.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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