[continued from previous message]   
      
   OEC.  Luskin claims to have gotten his PhD studying rocks around 2   
   billion years old.  Their claim to be running a "Big Tent" scam that all   
   types of Biblical creationists are welcomed to attend is a lie.  The Top   
   Six evidences for ID should tell any competent and sane person that YEC   
   do not want to teach the existing ID science in the public schools.  The   
   Big Bang is already a topic that several creationist state school boards   
   have wanted to remove from the science standards, and Kansas succeeded   
   in 1999, so the YEC do not want the best evidence for ID to be   
   presented.  Luskin is one of the authors of the Educator's briefing   
   packet and the guy describing how the bait and switch went down on the   
   West Virginia legislator with the removal of intelligent design from the   
   legislation.  He even describes why the bait and switch needed to go   
   down again after the legislation passed because "Unfortunately, some   
   legislators seem to have been confused by earlier versions of the bill   
   and thought that the final version of this bill was about intelligent   
   design."  Luskin had to be quoted in the news lying about the Discovery   
   Institute not supporting teaching intelligent design in the public   
   schools.  Luskin is coauthor of the Educator's Briefing packet.   
      
   QUOTE:   
   Has ID Been Banned from Public Schools?   
   No. Science teachers have the right to teach science.   
   Since ID is a legitimate scientific theory, it should be   
   constitutional to discuss in science classrooms and it   
   should not be banned from schools. If a science teacher   
   wants to voluntarily discuss ID, she should have the   
   academic freedom to do so.   
   END QUOTE:   
      
   QUOTE:   
   Although Discovery Institute does not advocate requiring   
   the teaching of intelligent design in public schools, it   
   does believe there is nothing unconstitutional about   
   voluntarily discussing the scientific theory of design in   
   the classroom. In addition, the Institute opposes efforts   
   to persecute individual teachers who may wish to discuss   
   the scientific debate over design in an objective and   
   pedagogically appropriate manner.   
   END QUOTE:   
      
   The switch scam is just the same obfuscation and denial that the   
   scientific creationists used to use, but they do not mention the   
   creationist reason for the obfuscation and denial.  Nearly all the rubes   
   drop the issue instead of bend over for the switch scam because if they   
   can't tell the students why they are lying to them there is no point in   
   teaching them enough science for them to understand what they have to deny.   
      
   You really do not want to be a YEC IDiotic supporter of the ID scam.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)