From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/21/2025 11:20 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   > On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 08:28:29 -0800, erik simpson   
   >  wrote:   
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   >   
   > [...]   
   >   
   >> Although this is a reply to Ron, I'd also like to include Martin as   
   >> well.  I respect the opinion of both of these gentlemen in general, but   
   >> this conversation has been going on too long and is getting nowhere. I   
   >> don't believe either of you are deliberately lying or being obtuse or   
   >> stupid.  Let it go, please.   
   >   
   > Sorry, Erik, we all have our flashpoints and one of mine is someone   
   > calling me a liar and persisting with it after they have been shown to   
   > be wrong.   
   >   
   If you stopped lying, you wouldn't hit the flash point so often.  My   
   references were never deficient, and your own trusted source backed them   
   up.  You know that you have been lying about my sources since you could   
   not deal with the reality that they presented.  What I have had to put   
   up in this set of posts, just confirms what has been given to you   
   before, and you can't deal with the new sources, just like you could not   
   deal with to original ones.  Why did you run from the Vatican   
   Observatory citation instead of claim that it was an untrustworthy   
   source?  You had to snip it out (after running from it) before   
   continuing to prevaricate about "never been condemmned".  You should   
   have just admitted that your quote was wrong instead of prevaricating   
   about the issue.  It turned out that it is your sources that are not   
   trustworthy.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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