From: admin@127.0.0.1   
      
   On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 17:48:28 -0600   
   RonO  wrote:   
      
   > On 11/21/2025 11:20 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 08:28:29 -0800, erik simpson   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > [...]   
   > >   
   > >> Although this is a reply to Ron, I'd also like to include Martin as   
   > >> well.  I respect the opinion of both of these gentlemen in general, but   
   > >> this conversation has been going on too long and is getting nowhere. I   
   > >> don't believe either of you are deliberately lying or being obtuse or   
   > >> stupid.  Let it go, please.   
   > >   
   > > Sorry, Erik, we all have our flashpoints and one of mine is someone   
   > > calling me a liar and persisting with it after they have been shown to   
   > > be wrong.   
   > >   
   > If you stopped lying, you wouldn't hit the flash point so often.  My   
   > references were never deficient, and your own trusted source backed them   
   > up.  You know that you have been lying about my sources since you could   
   > not deal with the reality that they presented.  What I have had to put   
   > up in this set of posts, just confirms what has been given to you   
   > before, and you can't deal with the new sources, just like you could not   
   > deal with to original ones.  Why did you run from the Vatican   
   > Observatory citation instead of claim that it was an untrustworthy   
   > source?  You had to snip it out (after running from it) before   
   > continuing to prevaricate about "never been condemmned".  You should   
   > have just admitted that your quote was wrong instead of prevaricating   
   > about the issue.  It turned out that it is your sources that are not   
   > trustworthy.   
   >   
      
   Give it up.   
      
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