From: 69jpil69@gmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 09:28:39 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John"   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 17:48:28 -0600   
   >RonO  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 11/21/2025 11:20 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   >> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 08:28:29 -0800, erik simpson   
   >> >  wrote:   
   >> >    
   >> >    
   >> > [...]   
   >> >    
   >> >> Although this is a reply to Ron, I'd also like to include Martin as   
   >> >> well.  I respect the opinion of both of these gentlemen in general, but   
   >> >> this conversation has been going on too long and is getting nowhere. I   
   >> >> don't believe either of you are deliberately lying or being obtuse or   
   >> >> stupid.  Let it go, please.   
   >> >    
   >> > Sorry, Erik, we all have our flashpoints and one of mine is someone   
   >> > calling me a liar and persisting with it after they have been shown to   
   >> > be wrong.   
   >> >    
   >> If you stopped lying, you wouldn't hit the flash point so often.  My    
   >> references were never deficient, and your own trusted source backed them    
   >> up.  You know that you have been lying about my sources since you could    
   >> not deal with the reality that they presented.  What I have had to put    
   >> up in this set of posts, just confirms what has been given to you    
   >> before, and you can't deal with the new sources, just like you could not    
   >> deal with to original ones.  Why did you run from the Vatican    
   >> Observatory citation instead of claim that it was an untrustworthy    
   >> source?  You had to snip it out (after running from it) before    
   >> continuing to prevaricate about "never been condemmned".  You should    
   >> have just admitted that your quote was wrong instead of prevaricating    
   >> about the issue.  It turned out that it is your sources that are not    
   >> trustworthy.   
   >>    
   >   
   >Give it up.   
      
      
   The above crap should have worn through even Erik's tolerance   
   threshold.   
      
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