From: me22over7@gmail.com   
      
   On 16/12/2025 2:41 am, RonO wrote:   
   > On 12/15/2025 6:40 AM, MarkE wrote:   
   >> Q. If you were to press the strongest ID arguments, what would they be?   
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   >> A. (ChatGPT 5.2): https://chatgpt.com/s/   
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   >> Executive overview   
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   >> The strongest ID arguments do not rest on:   
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   >> - “Gaps in the fossil record”   
   >> - “Evolution violates the Second Law”   
   >> - “We can’t imagine how X evolved”   
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   >> They rest on three deep claims:   
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   >> 1. The origin of novel, functionally specific information   
   >> 2. Systems-level irreducible coordination at the molecular scale   
   >> 3. The absence of demonstrated creative power in known evolutionary   
   >> mechanisms   
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   >> These arguments aim not at descent with modification, but at the   
   >> sufficiency of unguided mechanisms to produce new integrated   
   >> biological systems.   
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   > Why would any honest religious person support a stupid bait and switch   
   > scam that the ID perps have been running on their own creationist   
   > support base for over 23 years.  You know for an absolute fact, that   
   > they have been doing that for over two decades, so what could be any   
   > possible reason for supporting the scam?   
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   > The ID perps claim that the Top Six are their best evidences for the ID   
   > scam, and all six were god of the gaps stupidity used by the scientific   
   > creationists that came before the ID perp creationist scam artists.   
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   > The problem with the current AI is that they believe the lies.  They do   
   > not differentiate between a lie and reality.  The AI takes the ID scam   
   > propaganda that the ID perps use to support their dishonest bait and   
   > switch effort without regard to whether or not it has a basis in reality.   
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   > The ID perps do not run the bait and switch on the science side, but   
   > they run the scam on their own creationist support base.  Creationist   
   > like you have always been the victims of the bait and switch.  You have   
   > watched the bait and switch go down 100% of the time, and you can still   
   > do what you do after all the other IDiots quit supporting the scam when   
   > they realized that they had never wanted the ID perps to succeed in   
   > producing any valid ID science.  The crazy fact is that the rubes do not   
   > even want to teach the ID science.  #1 of the Top Six is the Big Bang   
   > and the creationist rubes have already tried to remove the Big Bang from   
   > their state's science standards in several statesj, and they succeeded   
   > in Kansas.  None of them would want to teach the Top Six as the best   
   > evidence for ID, just as Kalk, Bill, and Pagano couldn't deal with the   
   > Top Six when confronted by the reality of what the ID perps were   
   > selling.  Filling the Top Six gaps in the order in which they must have   
   > occurred in this universe would just have been more science for   
   > creationist like yourself to deny.  It is why you have to lie to   
   > yourself about why you support the origin of life gap denial when   
   > filling that gap would mean that the Bible is just wrong about the   
   > creation.   
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   > Ron Okimoto   
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   Ron, AI is passing the Turing test with honours: its responses are not   
   only indistinguishable from yours, they are more coherent, substantial,   
   interesting and compelling.   
      
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