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   MarkE to Ernest Major   
   Re: ID's assertion and definition of a "   
   17 Dec 25 21:57:39   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   information "can only come from a mind", or the "conservation of   
   information"?   
      
   Is the resolution akin to entropy: entropy could potentially increase   
   spontaneously in a closed system with a very small number of (say) gas   
   molecules with different velocities, such that the hotter ones randomly   
   moved to one region and the colder ones to another. However, as the   
   number of particles increases, the probability of this occurring   
   decreases exponentially.   
      
   Inference: macroevolution (a non-trivial increase in information) is   
   like entropy decrease in a stochastic ensemble (e.g. a spontaneous   
   non-trivial temperature gradient).   
      
   The former is in an open system, but I'm not suggesting direct equivalence.   
      
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> (AlphaFold broke the back of the protein folding problem, but in that   
   >>> case one could appeal to import from environment as the source of the   
   >>> information in the trained model.)   
   >>>   
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