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|    MarkE to Ernest Major    |
|    Re: ID's assertion and definition of a "    |
|    17 Dec 25 21:57:39    |
      [continued from previous message]              information "can only come from a mind", or the "conservation of       information"?              Is the resolution akin to entropy: entropy could potentially increase       spontaneously in a closed system with a very small number of (say) gas       molecules with different velocities, such that the hotter ones randomly       moved to one region and the colder ones to another. However, as the       number of particles increases, the probability of this occurring       decreases exponentially.              Inference: macroevolution (a non-trivial increase in information) is       like entropy decrease in a stochastic ensemble (e.g. a spontaneous       non-trivial temperature gradient).              The former is in an open system, but I'm not suggesting direct equivalence.              >>       >>>       >>> (AlphaFold broke the back of the protein folding problem, but in that       >>> case one could appeal to import from environment as the source of the       >>> information in the trained model.)       >>>       >>       >              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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