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|    More lies from the ID perps about Dover     |
|    17 Dec 25 11:50:45    |
      [continued from previous message]              and Seth Cooper was the one charged with making sure that the rubes only       got the obfuscation and denial switch scam. The bait and switch had       gone down dozens of times by the time Dover hit the fan and Cooper had       likely gotten complacent and did not follow up to make sure that the       IDiotic creationist rubes had either dropped the issue or bent over for       the switch scam (I think that, at that time, every group of creationist       rubes had dropped the issue and not taken the switch scam. Ohio was the       first and only taker of the obfuscation and denial switch scam, at that       time, that I recall). No creationist rubes had been stupid enough to       try to teach the ID junk after the ID perps told them not to do it. The       problem with the Dover creationist rubes was that they were too ignorant       and stupid to understand that it was the Discovery Institute that was       selling the teach ID scam. So they didn't take the hint that the teach       ID scam was too bogus to be considered to be a viable dishonest ploy to       get creationism into the public schools.              Prevarications about "mandating" and "not requiring" ID to be taught       only started after Dover. Before Dover the ID perps were just claiming       that ID could be taught, but their policy was that it would never be       taught and they were running a stupid bait and switch scam to make sure       that no one tried to teach the creationist junk in the public schools.       The ID perps temporarily removed their "not required" wording from their       education policy in 2013 when both Louisiana and Texas tried to use       their switch scam junk to teach ID (their current education policy has       returned to the "not required" prevarication). Both states claimed that       they were not requiring ID to be taught, just allowing teachers to teach       it if they wanted to, but the ID perps ran the bait and switch on them       anyway and reminded them that the switch scam was supposed to have       nothing to do with ID nor creationism (Louisiana had called what they       wanted to teach both ID and creationism). So "mandating" and "not       requiring" are just lies that the ID perps still have to tell when       selling the teach ID scam to creationist rubes. The ID perps do not run       the bait and switch on the science side, but the scam is run on their       own creationist support base.              Ron Okimoto              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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