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   RonO to All   
   More lies from the ID perps about Dover    
   17 Dec 25 11:50:45   
   
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   and Seth Cooper was the one charged with making sure that the rubes only   
   got the obfuscation and denial switch scam.  The bait and switch had   
   gone down dozens of times by the time Dover hit the fan and Cooper had   
   likely gotten complacent and did not follow up to make sure that the   
   IDiotic creationist rubes had either dropped the issue or bent over for   
   the switch scam (I think that, at that time, every group of creationist   
   rubes had dropped the issue and not taken the switch scam.  Ohio was the   
   first and only taker of the obfuscation and denial switch scam, at that   
   time, that I recall).  No creationist rubes had been stupid enough to   
   try to teach the ID junk after the ID perps told them not to do it.  The   
   problem with the Dover creationist rubes was that they were too ignorant   
   and stupid to understand that it was the Discovery Institute that was   
   selling the teach ID scam.  So they didn't take the hint that the teach   
   ID scam was too bogus to be considered to be a viable dishonest ploy to   
   get creationism into the public schools.   
      
   Prevarications about "mandating" and "not requiring" ID to be taught   
   only started after Dover.  Before Dover the ID perps were just claiming   
   that ID could be taught, but their policy was that it would never be   
   taught and they were running a stupid bait and switch scam to make sure   
   that no one tried to teach the creationist junk in the public schools.   
   The ID perps temporarily removed their "not required" wording from their   
   education policy in 2013 when both Louisiana and Texas tried to use   
   their switch scam junk to teach ID (their current education policy has   
   returned to the "not required" prevarication).  Both states claimed that   
   they were not requiring ID to be taught, just allowing teachers to teach   
   it if they wanted to, but the ID perps ran the bait and switch on them   
   anyway and reminded them that the switch scam was supposed to have   
   nothing to do with ID nor creationism (Louisiana had called what they   
   wanted to teach both ID and creationism).  So "mandating" and "not   
   requiring" are just lies that the ID perps still have to tell when   
   selling the teach ID scam to creationist rubes.  The ID perps do not run   
   the bait and switch on the science side, but the scam is run on their   
   own creationist support base.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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