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   >>> again when both states tried to use the switch scam to teach ID in their   
   >>> public schools in 2013.   
   >>>   
   >>> The ID movement has just been using ID as bait for over 23 years.  Dover   
   >>> hit the fan and the bait and switch failed 3 years after the ID perps   
   >>> began running the bait and switch scam on any creationist rubes that had   
   >>> believed them about having any ID science to teach in the public   
   >>> schools.  The Dover rubes were just too stupid and ignorant to know that   
   >>> the ID perps were then ones that were selling the teach ID scam at that   
   >>> time, so they didn't take the switch scam and tried to teach ID anyway.   
   >>>   
   >>> If anything the ID movement died when the bait and switch started to go   
   >>> down in 2002.  Nelson started claiming that the ID science had never   
   >>> existed, but that the ID perps were working on creating some, and IDiots   
   >>> like Mike Gene admitted that he had given up on teaching the ID scam   
   >>> junk back in 1999.  ID has just been used as bait for over 23 years.   
   >>> The ID movement should have never started the bait and switch scam that   
   >>> is only run on their own creationist support base, but once the bait and   
   >>> switch scam started it likely should have died after Dover, but the scam   
   >>> artists could not give up on the original Wedge mission that the ID   
   >>> perps had signed up to accomplish.  The obfuscation and denial switch   
   >>> scam is their only way forward in trying to accomplish their Wedge   
   >>> goals, and the only way that they can get the rubes to try it is to use   
   >>> ID as bait.  COPE had a 100% failure rate for trying to sell creationist   
   >>> rubes the switch scam without using ID as bait.  Creationists just do   
   >>> not want to teach their kids enough science for them to understand what   
   >>> they have to deny if they can't tell them the religious reason for lying   
   >>> to them.   
   >>>   
   >>> Ron Okimoto   
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