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   RonO to JTEM   
   Re: Chimp to human evolution - Sandwalk    
   21 Dec 25 16:51:20   
   
   From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/21/2025 3:22 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   > On 12/19/25 11:43 AM, RonO wrote:   
   >   
   >> Your projection   
   >   
   > So you're insane, true, but you were pretending that actions   
   > (verbs) are tools (nouns) and now you stopped even trying to   
   > defend your stupid position.   
   >   
   > Again:  Show me million year old Chimp tools.   
   >   
   > Chimps aren't even as sophisticated as ants, according to   
   > your disordered world view... right?   
   >   
   > If you want to now pretend a different position, explain:   
   >   
   > https://besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1365-2435.13671   
      
   Just a nut job.  Just go back up and see how you responded to my   
   previous post on this paper.  You can't just snip out and run from   
   reality, you have to deal with it.   
      
      
   >   
   > Give us examples of Chimp "Tool use" that is more   
   > sophisticated than the "Tools" referenced above.   
      
   As you know these ants have an instinctive behavior of using sand grains   
   to carry sweet liquid (probably fruit juice or nectar).  This is not a   
   learned behavior.  They do not modify the sand grains they stack them up   
   under certain environmental cues.   
      
   Chimps modify what they find in nature and make it into a working tool.   
   They chew up leaves and make a sponge.  They strip the leaves off of a   
   stick to make a probe to fish out termites.  These are learned cultural   
   behaviors.  It takes years for a chimp to learn how to make these simple   
   tools and use them effectively.  That is the major difference between   
   how humans would make the same tools.  A child might only take less than   
   a day to learn how to effectively make a termite probe or a sponge to   
   obtain drinking water.  Some people would likely only need to be shown   
   once how to do it, but you likely are not in that category considering   
   how you are able to remain willfully ignorant of the stupidest things.   
      
   >   
   > Yeah, explain YOUR OWN GODDAMN POSITION... as if you could.   
   >   
   > Lol!   
   >   
   > It's no mystery why you act out emotionally. You're a regular   
   > Nick Reiner!   
      
   Just a nut job that can't deal with reality.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
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