From: me22over7@gmail.com   
      
   On 31/12/2025 1:56 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:   
      
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   >>> What is *your* solution to this dilemma? It seem to me you have two   
   >>> possibilities:   
   >>>   
   >>> #1   
   >>> God tweaked the existing systems in a common ancestor of man and   
   >>> chimps so that a human  descendant would eventually appear.   
   >>>   
   >>> #2   
   >>> God directly created man as a brand new species but acting as a   
   >>> designer, he adapted the plans he had already used for chimps.   
   >>>   
   >>> Which of those is it or have you a third option I haven't thought of?   
   >>   
   >> Personally, I haven't resolved that question. I lean toward #2, as a   
   >> tentative OEC.   
   >>   
   >> My own convictions are that   
   >>   
   >>      1. God created   
   >>   
   >> and, that purely naturalistic explanations   
   >   
   > By supernaturalistic, don't you mean "I can make up whatever I want   
   > and call it a solution"?   
      
   Vince, what were you hoping to achieve with this comment?   
      
   >   
   >   are inadequate for   
   >>   
   >>      2. origin of the universe   
   >>      3. fine tuning   
   >>      4. origin of life   
   >>      5. macroevolution   
   >>   
   >> My approach on TO is to attempt to use scientistic evidence to support   
   >> 2-5. If this can be done to a significant degree for one of more of   
   >> these, then I think 1 becomes the most realistic alternative in some   
   >> shape or form. The who/why/what/when/how of 1 is a separate endeavour,   
   >> and is not a requirement for 2-5.   
      
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