From: me22over7@gmail.com   
      
   On 4/01/2026 1:45 am, Martin Harran wrote:   
   > On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 12:09:54 +1100, MarkE  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/01/2026 11:33 am, Vincent Maycock wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 10:20:42 +1100, MarkE  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >   
   > [...]   
   >   
   >> You are the man who lost his keys somewhere in the carpark, and but   
   >> insists on looking only under the lamppost because because he says the   
   >> light is better there.   
   >   
   > The problem with that analogy is that you are not offering the man a   
   > torch or a candle or even a lit match to help him search in the   
   > darkness, you are simply leaving him to stumble around. Even if he   
   > does find something in the darkness that feels like it might be keys,   
   > he will have to bring them into the light to examine them and make   
   > sure they are indeed keys and, unless they are clearly identified, he   
   > will have to try them out in a lock to make sure that they do fit.   
   >   
   > [...]   
   >   
      
   I'm happy to extend the analogy and give him a torch or a candle, i.e.   
   religion, philosophy, history, etc. Does that address your concern?   
      
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