From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/4/2026 6:03 AM, MarkE wrote:   
   > On 4/01/2026 1:45 am, Martin Harran wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 12:09:54 +1100, MarkE  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/01/2026 11:33 am, Vincent Maycock wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 10:20:42 +1100, MarkE  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>   
   >> [...]   
   >>   
   >>> You are the man who lost his keys somewhere in the carpark, and but   
   >>> insists on looking only under the lamppost because because he says the   
   >>> light is better there.   
   >>   
   >> The problem with that analogy is that you are not offering the man a   
   >> torch or a candle or even a lit match to help him search in the   
   >> darkness, you are simply leaving him to stumble around. Even if he   
   >> does find something in the darkness that feels like it might be keys,   
   >> he will have to bring them into the light to examine them and make   
   >> sure they are indeed keys and, unless they are clearly identified, he   
   >> will have to try them out in a lock to make sure that they do fit.   
   >>   
   >> [...]   
   >>   
   >   
   > I'm happy to extend the analogy and give him a torch or a candle, i.e.   
   > religion, philosophy, history, etc. Does that address your concern?   
   >   
      
   No such torch or candle exists to give to that person.  He would be   
   forever blind in searching where you think that he should be searching.   
   When would he know if he found what he was searching for?  The answer of   
   "never" is why people don't search there.  All that you could hope to   
   find is faith, and that is just as likely to be found in the light if it   
   is a true faith.  Isn't it more likely that you would find a false faith   
   in the dark?   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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