From: martinharran@gmail.com   
      
   On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 17:34:38 -0800, John Harshman   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 1/11/26 9:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 11:45:26 -0600, DB Cates    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2026-01-10 11:34 a.m., John Harshman wrote:   
   >>   
   >> [...]   
   >>   
   >>>   But I really have no idea what   
   >>>> point Martin is trying to make. What, if anything, would a putative Adam   
   >>>> and Eve, whether or not they were the only humans at the time, have to   
   >>>> do with Y-Adam or mt-Eve?   
   >>>>   
   >>> Beats me.   
   >>   
   >> There are two points.   
   >>   
   >> The *immediate* one is that Harshman tried to make out that I was   
   >> claiming Y-Adam or mt-Eve are a couple. Although I told him that was   
   >> not the case several times in the past, I was prepared to put it down   
   >> to a memory lapse on his part but the more he has tried to wriggle out   
   >> of it, even after I clearly stated that it was not what I was saying,   
   >> the more it looks as if he was quite deliberate in what he claimed.   
   >>   
   >> The *underlying* point is that Harshman and others have tried in the   
   >> past to scornfully dismiss Christian belief in humans being descended   
   >> from one couple but we are in fact descended from many such couples.   
   >   
   >You understand that "one couple" is quite different from "many such   
   >couples", right? I would never scornfully dismiss the latter, and I   
   >suspect we would both scornfully dismiss the former.   
   >   
   >The question remains why you brought up Y-Adam and mt-Eve in the first   
   >place. Are you unwilling to say?   
      
   Err ... it was because you asked me for examples from the book and   
   that was just one of them.   
      
   Senior moment?   
      
      
   >   
   >> Whether or not any of those couples would qualify as the source of the   
   >> Genesis Adam and Eve, is of course, a separate argument.   
   >   
   >Yes, and an argument I have never attempted with you. Incidentally, are   
   >you familiar with the genealogical Adam and Eve hypothesis?   
      
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