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   Chris Thompson to Martin Harran   
   Re: Chimp to human evolution - Sandwalk    
   25 Jan 26 22:48:49   
   
   From: the_thompsons@earthlink.net   
      
   Martin Harran wrote:   
   > On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 22:34:44 -0500, Chris Thompson   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Martin Harran wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:57:04 -0800, Vincent Maycock   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 16:11:02 +0000, Martin Harran   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>   
   >> snip   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> The ToE was developed   
   >>>>> inside Darwin's head, Natural Selection is not something we can   
   >>>>> directly examine by  putting it inside a test tube or picking up to   
   >>>>> measure or weigh - it is an intellectual explanation for what we see   
   >>>>> happening in evolution.   
   >>   
   >> Wow wow wow wow.   
   >>   
   >> And just like that, millions of hours of field studies and thousands of   
   >> peer-reviewed articles go POOF!   
   >   
   > As Thomas Edison put it "Genius is one percent inspiration,   
   > ninety-nine percent perspiration." Darwin's identification of NS was   
   > pure inspiration, prompting Huxley to declare"How incredibly stupid   
   > not to have thought of that.". That inspiration, however, did not come   
   > out of the blue, it came from the "perspiration" of many years of   
   > studying evolution.   
   >   
   > The same applies to Lemaitre's identification of the Big Bang; it too   
   > was inspiration after the "perspiration" of slogging through the works   
   > of Einstein and Hubble; or Mnedel whose inspired identification of   
   > traits working in pairs came from years of experimenting with peas.   
   >   
   > It seems to me that your remarks would be better pointed to Vincent   
   > who doesn't seem to regard perspiration as particularly necessary.   
      
   I don't think so. Vincent was not the one who asserted we cannot   
   directly observe and measure natural selection. That assertion, to put   
   it mildly, is utter bollocks.   
      
   Chris   
      
      
   > Questions have been asked about the existence of God for thousands of   
   > years and millions of words have been published - Aquinas wrote about   
   > 1.8 million in Summa Theologica alone. Vincent reckons that can all be   
   > just ignored, that he can figure it out by simply reading one book   
   > written about 3500 years ago, mostly figuratively, for an uneducated   
   > audience.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> I will see your "not something we can directly examine" and raise you a   
   >> _Biston betularia_.   
   >   
   > Again, that would be better directed to Vincent who reckons the   
   > supernatural cannot exist because it's not something that can be   
   > directly examined.   
   >   
      
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