From: martinharran@gmail.com
On Mon, 26 Jan 2026 16:35:50 -0800, John Harshman
wrote:
>On 1/25/26 7:22 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 14:46:20 -0800, Mark Isaak
>> wrote:
>>
[...]
>>> I got the impression it was you, Martin, who was arguing in favor of a
>>> literal first couple. I have no idea why you would do that except to
>>> support some degree of biblical literalness.
>>
>> I wasn't arguing that human beings are *biologically* descended from a
>> unique couple - that would foolishly fly directly in the face of what
>> science has shown us; on the contrary, I was pointing out is that we
>> are *biologically* descended for may specific couples such as MT Eve's
>> parents, parents, grandparents.
>
>And thousands of other couples unconnected to Mt-Eve or Y-Adam.
>
>> It is entirely possible, however, that
>> the ability to recognize good, to deliberately choose between good and
>> evil, did start from one of those couples we are descended from. That
>> is what the real message of Genesis is - humans acquiring the ability
>> to recognize good and to deliberately choose between good and evil.
>
>Which is weird, since God told them not to acquire that ability, in fact
>told them they would die if they did. Now why would he want us not to
>have that ability?
>
>> TBH, whether that started with one couple or more than one is a matter
>> of total indifference to me. I'm happy, however, to go along with the
>> Church's opinion that it did start with one couple as there is no
>> particular reason to reject that.
>
>So before Adam ate the apple (or whatever he did to occasion the Fall)
>he wasn't a true man? And is knowledge of good and evil the same thing
>as the ability to know God, which was the faculty you previously claimed
>we inherited from Adam?
Oh golly gee, yet another poster tries to attack me with a literal
reading of the Bible when I have made it clear that I reject that
literal reading.
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