From: martinharran@gmail.com   
      
   On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 09:39:59 -0800, Vincent Maycock   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 14:34:11 +0000, Martin Harran   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 09:13:12 -0800, Vincent Maycock   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 13:26:17 +0000, Martin Harran   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 22:34:44 -0500, Chris Thompson   
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>[...]   
   >>   
   >>>>It seems to me that your remarks would be better pointed to Vincent   
   >>>>who doesn't seem to regard perspiration as particularly necessary.   
   >>>   
   >>>Where did you get that from?   
   >>   
   >>===================================   
   >>Me:   
   >>   
   >>>On the other side of the coin (no pun intended), as part of my own   
   >>>study of science versus religion, I have read both Dawkins and Coyne's   
   >>>books on why religious beliefs is a load of bunkum, and I thought both   
   >>>books were totally unconvincing.   
   >>[..]   
   >>>Or take Intelligent Design which I have regularly dismissed here,   
   >>>again I did my homework reading people like Denyse O'Leary and Stephen   
   >>>Meyer and again found their arguments totally unconvincing.   
   >>>   
   >>>So let me kick that back to you. What books or other writings arguing   
   >>>for religious belief have you studied to reach the conclusion that   
   >>>religious belief is a load of bunkum?   
   >>   
   >>You:   
   >>   
   >>I've read the Bible, and I'm not impressed.   
   >>   
   >>===========================================   
   >   
   >And reading the Bible is less perspiration than reading Dawkins and   
   >Coyne?   
      
   Apparently you don't grasp the difference between reading a book and   
   understanding the subject that the book is addressing. Sorry but I   
   don't think I can do anything else to help you with that.   
      
   >   
   >>>>Questions have been asked about the existence of God for thousands of   
   >>>>years and millions of words have been published - Aquinas wrote about   
   >>>>1.8 million in Summa Theologica alone. Vincent reckons that can all be   
   >>>>just ignored,   
   >>>   
   >>>So how many angels *can* dance on the head of a pin?   Or is Thomas   
   >>>Aquinas better than that because he wrote oh so much?   
   >>>   
   >>>However, I will give you the opportunity to post your favorite *Summa   
   >>>Theologica* argument, and I'll debunk it for you.   
   >>   
   >>Sorry, based on your 'debunking' performance to date, I'll give that a   
   >>miss.   
   >   
   >Cite?   
      
   Right through your posts above e.g. your very poor understanding of   
   statistical surveys.   
      
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