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   jillery to MarkE   
   Re: Chimp to human evolution - Sandwalk    
   03 Feb 26 03:18:30   
   
   From: 69jpil69@gmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 07:26:21 +1100, MarkE  wrote:   
      
   >On 3/02/2026 1:10 am, jillery wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 09:18:56 +1100, MarkE  wrote:   
   >>    
   >>> On 2/02/2026 7:59 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 06:57:31 +1100   
   >>>> MarkE  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/02/2026 1:55 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:   
   >>>> []   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> I came to see what recent advances there had been on how life began.   
   >>>>>> 'Goddidit' isn't a satisfactory answer.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What if, in reality, God did it?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Then he's a rubbish creator, if it takes 4 billion years to get any   
   >>>> worshipper feedback.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What if I asked you a trick question with a huge suppostion in it?   
   >>>> e.g.   
   >>>> Do you feel some deep insecurity about life that you need a 'god'   
   >>>> to comfort you?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Marx's "opium of the people"?   
   >>>   
   >>> Certainly, recognise one's worldview and the risk of confirmation bias   
   >>> etc that it brings. I try to argue on the basis of science, as best I   
   >>> can. But who of us is free from the influence of our preconceptions and   
   >>> beliefs?   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> It's reasonable to expect thoughtful individuals to recongnize their   
   >> perceptions and beliefs, and the limits to them.   
   >>    
   >>    
   >>> Similarly, do you reject God because the idea of moral accountability is   
   >>> uncomfortable?   
   >>    
   >>    
   >> The fatal flaw with God as an explanation is that it doesn't explain   
   >> anything.  Even if you were to precisely define what you mean by   
   >> "God", you still couldn't show why your God did this instead of that.   
   >> With God, it's mysterious ways all the way down.   
   >>    
   >   
   >Are you saying that because God doesn't provide an explanation according    
   >to the scientific method, a supernatural creator cannot have any    
   >expectations over their creation?   
      
      
   No.  To beat the point to death and beyond resurrection, whatever its   
   type or expectations, invoking "God" as an explanation provides   
   nothing but emotional comfort for those who find that explanation   
   comforting.   
      
   And in the spirit of answering innuendos, rejecting God as an   
   explanation is different from rejecting God or morality.  Whatever   
   your basis for moral accountability, history shows God has been used   
   to justify any and all behavior people felt like doing.   
      
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