From: admin@127.0.0.1   
      
   On Fri, 06 Feb 2026 16:59:54 +0000   
   Martin Harran  wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 16:26:11 -0600, DB Cates    
   > wrote:   
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   > >On 2026-02-05 10:53 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:   
   > >> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 10:12:39 -0600, RonO  wrote:   
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   > >>  From the book:   
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   > >> So there you have it. Our true ancestor, our ultimate origin, our   
   > >> first parent, is matter. Looking at the marvelous technology of the   
   > >> human hand or eye, it is hard to believe that it is nothing more than   
   > >> cleverly arranged matter. But that's what it is.   
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   > >And that's what you (and they?) consider the biblical position???   
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   > No, it is not the *biblical*position, it is a *scientific* position -   
   > the Bible is not a science book. The point they are making is that   
   > there is nothing in that scientific position that undermines the Bible   
   > and there are some specific points where science has confirmed some   
   > key points that were in the Bible long before science figured them   
   > out; for example, that the original physical source of humans was   
   > inert material.   
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   > Have you never heard the expression "Remember man that thou art dust   
   > and unto dust shalt return"? It will be said to me later this month as   
   > it is every Ash Wednesday.   
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   It's a long haul (but I'm sure it's comforting).   
   All life must've come from somewhere, and it's made of matter. Wow.   
   Hardly the same thing as a god modeling some clay and breathing life   
   into it. As for then taking a rib out to make a woman...   
      
   Grasping at straws methinks.   
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   --   
   Bah, and indeed, Humbug   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)