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   Kerr-Mudd, John to Vincent Maycock   
   Re: Hossenfelder, Tour, Benner   
   19 Feb 26 09:59:02   
   
   From: admin@127.0.0.1   
      
   On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 20:46:44 -0800   
   Vincent Maycock  wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:11:15 +1100, MarkE  wrote:   
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   > >"How" options include:   
   > >   
   > >2.a. God, e.g. "And God said, 'Let there be light," and there was light"   
   > >   
   > >2.b. An impersonal non-material agent/causality   
   > >   
   > >Note the category distinction between *Why* is there a universe? and   
   > >*How* did the universe come to be?   
   >   
   > So why *is* there a universe, in your view?  To kill people in the   
   > vastness of outer space? That would certainly fit with the known   
   > abundance of space available to accomplish this.  And how do you know   
   > God would prefer a universe of light rather than darkness?   
   >   
      
   Gods like people; they're the only one's who can do the worshipping -   
   but it does seem quite a convoluted effort to make a universe (just right,   
   or lots of them) 13.8 billions years ago and then have to wait 4.5   
   billion years for one planet around a mediocre sun on a disregraded limb of   
   an undistinguished galaxy to cool down, evolve life, destroy quite a few   
   promising species, and eventually get an intelligent enough ape.   
      
   I'm with William of Ockham here. (in case there's any doubt!)   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Ockham   
      
      
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