From: me22over7@gmail.com   
      
   On 21/02/2026 2:30 am, sticks wrote:   
   > On 2/20/2026 6:02 AM, MarkE wrote:   
   >   
   >> Lawrence Krauss with his "A Universe from Nothing" has been taken to   
   >> task that his "nothing” is not nothing. Krauss redefines "nothing" to   
   >> include the laws of physics, space, and quantum fluctuations.   
   >   
   > Thanks.  I have put this on the reading list.  It does appear he does   
   > the same dance around what is nothing that materialism forces.   
   >   
   >> But credit for acknowledging the implication of the universe having a   
   >> beginning by attempting to develop a materialistic work-around.   
   >   
   > He's not shy of making the claim that origin has no need for the   
   > supernatural.  Looking forward to reading his evidence on this take.   
   >   
   >   
      
   We have seen the rise and fall of the New Atheists, including Dawkins'   
   simplistic reductionism, philosophical shallowness, and smug   
   complacency. Krauss is not one of the “Four Horsemen”, but a leading   
   infantryman, and IMO open to a similar charge.   
      
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