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|    Why evolution won't work (fitness landsc    |
|    22 Feb 26 17:32:37    |
      From: me22over7@gmail.com              Evidence is emerging that Dawkins' "Mt Improbable" is not Mt Fuji but       rather "rugged in all directions" [1]. Neat textbook depictions give way       to the reality of a "lack of viable evolutionary pathways among the       major optima."              Beneficial mutations do not work together, rather, "individually       beneficial mutations are often mutually incompatible, leading to       ruggedness on the fitness landscape."              This is at the molecular level with an empirically determined ribozyme       fitness landscape. The paper's conclusion?              "Nevertheless, in the absence of such mechanisms, the emergence of a       globally optimal sequence is likely to result from chance events rather       than natural selection."              An appeal to chance of this magnitude is a deal-breaker: "We can accept       a certain amount of luck in our explanations, but not too much." (The       Blind Watchmaker, Richard Dawkins)              A similar situation applies for proteins: "...an emerging picture of       pervasive epistasis" within proteins [2].              "Both types of interaction are rampant, but specific epistasis has       stronger effects on the rate and outcomes of evolution, because it       imposes stricter constraints and modulates evolutionary potential more       dramatically; it therefore makes evolution more contingent on       low-probability historical events..."              Note the "*more contingent on low-probability historical events*".              While selection acts on the phenotype as a whole, molecular evolution       underlies the process.              My prediction: this "emerging picture" will continue to build as       evidence against a foundation of Darwinian evolution.              _______              [1] Mapping a Systematic Ribozyme Fitness Landscape Reveals a Frustrated       Evolutionary Network for Self-Aminoacylating RNA       https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jacs.8b13298              "...optimization of activity over the entire landscape would be       frustrated by large valleys of low activity."              "Our results show that the experimentally determined ribozyme activity       landscape exhibits a degree of frustration, as individually beneficial       mutations are often mutually incompatible, leading to ruggedness on the       fitness landscape."              "...the inability to traverse the landscape globally corresponds to an       inability to restructure the ribozyme without losing activity."              "The ruggedness of the empirically determined ribozyme fitness landscape       reported here can be described by the Rough Mt. Fuji model, which is a       combination of a smooth 'Mt. Fuji' landscape and the random       House-of-Cards landscape...we suggest that the major [random]       House-of-Cards character found implies a substantial level of       frustration, consistent with the lack of viable evolutionary pathways       among the major optima."              "The frustrated nature of the evolutionary network suggests that chance       emergence of a ribozyme motif would be more important than optimization       by natural selection."              "It should be noted that mechanisms that favor greater genetic       diversity, such as recombination, gene duplication, or epistasis among       genes, could enable crossing of fitness valleys."              That is, a familiar mandatory positive spin, but followed by their real       conclusion:              "Nevertheless, in the absence of such mechanisms, the emergence of a       globally optimal sequence is likely to result from chance events rather       than natural selection."              _______              [2] Epistasis in protein evolution       https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26833806/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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