From: rokimoto557@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/23/2026 2:52 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:   
   > On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 10:07:00 -0600   
   > RonO  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2/23/2026 7:03 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   >   
   > [about the RC church' postion on geocentrisism in mediavel times]   
   >   
   > Church was wrong or right; I don't care.   
   > It's not really about Origins is it? - and you both keep repeating   
   > yourselves. Let it go.   
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   >   
      
   This is the same type of Biblical denial that you repeatedly address   
   with the Biblical creationists that are left posting.  There really   
   isn't any difference.  Just think about it for a minute.  Harran doesn't   
   want the Bible to have been wrong about anything.  He wants to make   
   believe that it has always been faulty interpretation, but the   
   interpretations have always been faulty because the Bible is just wrong   
   about a lot of things.  MarkE is anti-evolution because he doesn't want   
   the Bible to be wrong about nature.  Stick still wants to believe some   
   of the young earth nonsense because he doesn't want the Bible to be   
   wrong about those things.  Sticks has enough on the ball to understand   
   that the earth and universe are a lot older than the Bible has been   
   interpreted it to be, but he still wants the Bible to not be wrong about   
   some of the young earth claims about the creation.   
      
   Harran still wants the Bible to be correct about the creation, so he has   
   to deny that it has always been shown to be wrong about what we could   
   figure out for ourselves.  None of them can accept that the human   
   authors of the Bible just did not fully understand what the creation   
   actually was, and just like all the Church fathers they wrote about what   
   they thought that they understood, but it was obviously wrong.  None of   
   them can deal with the fact that there isn't a single god-did-it   
   Biblical claim that has been verified by science or what passed as   
   science in the past.  They understand that there has been 100% failure   
   for their efforts because if they had any successes they would be   
   crowing about those instead of wallowing in denial like Harran and the   
   others.  The denial is all that they have left.   
      
   Ron Okimoto   
      
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