From: martinharran@gmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 11:23:28 -0600, RonO    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 2/24/2026 9:41 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 09:22:19 -0600, RonO    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 2/23/2026 2:52 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 10:07:00 -0600   
   >>>> RonO  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 2/23/2026 7:03 AM, Martin Harran wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> [about the RC church' postion on geocentrisism in mediavel times]   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Church was wrong or right; I don't care.   
   >>>> It's not really about Origins is it? - and you both keep repeating   
   >>>> yourselves. Let it go.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> This is the same type of Biblical denial that you repeatedly address   
   >>> with the Biblical creationists that are left posting.  There really   
   >>> isn't any difference.  Just think about it for a minute.  Harran doesn't   
   >>> want the Bible to have been wrong about anything.  He wants to make   
   >>> believe that it has always been faulty interpretation, but the   
   >>> interpretations have always been faulty because the Bible is just wrong   
   >>> about a lot of things.  MarkE is anti-evolution because he doesn't want   
   >>> the Bible to be wrong about nature.  Stick still wants to believe some   
   >>> of the young earth nonsense because he doesn't want the Bible to be   
   >>> wrong about those things.  Sticks has enough on the ball to understand   
   >>> that the earth and universe are a lot older than the Bible has been   
   >>> interpreted it to be, but he still wants the Bible to not be wrong about   
   >>> some of the young earth claims about the creation.   
   >>>   
   >>> Harran still wants the Bible to be correct about the creation, so he has   
   >>> to deny that it has always been shown to be wrong about what we could   
   >>> figure out for ourselves.  None of them can accept that the human   
   >>> authors of the Bible just did not fully understand what the creation   
   >>> actually was, and just like all the Church fathers they wrote about what   
   >>> they thought that they understood, but it was obviously wrong.  None of   
   >>> them can deal with the fact that there isn't a single god-did-it   
   >>> Biblical claim that has been verified by science or what passed as   
   >>> science in the past.  They understand that there has been 100% failure   
   >>> for their efforts because if they had any successes they would be   
   >>> crowing about those instead of wallowing in denial like Harran and the   
   >>> others.  The denial is all that they have left.   
   >>   
   >> Ron, disagree with me if you like but please stop TELLING LIES about   
   >> me.   
   >>   
   >You are the one quote mining in order to remain in denial of reality.   
   >You should just stop lying about the situation and deal with reality as   
   >it exists, and not what you want to keep believing about it.   
      
      
   Yet more lies as demonstrated by the fact that despite you constantly   
   accuse me of quote mining, you have yet to produce a single example of   
   me doing so.   
      
   I have persevered here because I have always had respect for your   
   scientific expertise and I hated to see someone of your intelligence   
   making such an idiot of themselves. I now have to accept, however,   
   that the situation is irretrievable - your rationality is long gone   
   out the window along with any sense of moral decency. I will now   
   accept that and like just about everybody else here, simply ignore   
   your hysterical ranting and raving.   
      
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