From: admin@127.0.0.1   
      
   On Thu, 26 Feb 2026 18:17:56 +1100   
   MarkE  wrote:   
      
   > On 26/02/2026 8:47 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:   
   > > On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 13:33:16 +1100   
   > > MarkE  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 25/02/2026 6:05 am, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:   
   [left some out]   
   > >> As I've asked Vincent: Reality is either theism or not ("not" being   
   > >> materialism, atheism, deism, pantheism etc). You seem to reject theism   
   > >> as a *possibility* - why is that?   
   > >   
   > > Last go; religion and science are asking different questions; it's no good   
   > > looking for evidence for a god, failing to find it, but still wanting a gap   
   > > to be the bit where god gets involved.   
   >   
   > Are you suggesting that creationists generally "look for evidence for a   
   > god, fail to find it, but still want a gap to be the bit where god gets   
   > involved", and so ignore/deny/misinterpret the evidence?   
   >   
   > Genuine question, intended to clarify and/or move us past a simplistic   
   > characterisation.   
   >   
   What's your take on the desperate attempts by creationists to find   
   anything in science that's not fully worked out yet to support them?   
   >   
   > > As I said before, if you find that having a god gives you some   
   > > comfort, then it works for you. Just don't expect it to manifest itself   
   > > any time soon.   
   >   
   > Are you suggesting that creationists' belief is generally the result of   
   > a psychological need to "have a god [to give them] some comfort", that   
   > this is a character weakness, and one which creates a bias that takes   
   > away objectivity when considering scientific evidence?   
   >   
   > Again, a genuine question, intended to clarify and/or move us past a   
   > simplistic characterisation.   
   >   
   > >   
   Sounds like you are channeling Liza now!   
   > >   
   > >>   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Do you have a non-evolutionary explanation for why god designed the   
   > >>> laryngeal nerve that way?   
   > >>>   
   > >>   
   > > I see you want a god to do some things, but not be responsible for others.   
   > >   
   >   
   > Could there be other reasons why I have not yet responded to your question?   
   >   
   I dunno, maybe because you don't want to look at it? Do you often   
   respond to a question with a question? Maybe you don't make clear any   
   misgivings you may (or may not) have about creationism?   
      
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