XPost: alt.impeach.bush
From: jpastore@nettaxi.com
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:21:57 -0700, B Sellers wrote:
> Don Gabacho wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:58:17 -0700 (PDT), M_P wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 1:00 pm, "Lamont Cranston"
>>> wrote:
>>>> M_P wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 20, 5:02 am, ob...@real.com wrote:
>>>>>> lawmakers from both parties
>>>>>> said repeatedly that Washington's inattention to decades
>>>>>> of drug use
>>>>>> by Americans had played a central role in the crisis."
>>>>> "Inattention"? We've been throwing $40 billion a year down
>>>>> the Drug
>>>>> War rat-hole ... and it's the Drug War that truly has
>>>>> played a central
>>>>> role in the crisis by channeling inflated drug profits
>>>>> into criminal
>>>>> hands.
>>>> None of that $40 billion addresses the demand side of the
>>>> problem, drug use by Americans. It's all directed at the
>>>> supply side, the drug traffickers.
>>> The people in prison for possession of less than intent-to-distribute
>>> amounts would beg to differ ...
>>
>> With you. Even they are to blame, the ultimate victims, for Mexico's War
>> for buying their crap?
>>
>> Obviously the prison terms are ludicrous for use.
>>
>> Why should even legalizing use mean having to legalize sales also?
>
> Because that is the only way to dethrone the drug lords i.e.
> to take away the source of their income.
Nonesense.
Also: "Drug lords"!
As if, if drugs disappeared from the face of the earth tomorrow, they'd
stop being or striving to be "lords"---no matter the vice!
They will simply create new and more powerful drugs and/or intensify the
kidnapping of women for prostitution and/or sell even more humans for labor
for their profit, extortiion, protect rackets, etc..
Kidnap even more people for ransom and/or create even more reasons to be
hired out by their own government as goon squads etc. and/or whatever!
Moreover, drugs as a weapon remains a weapon at any price.
In fact, the cheaper the weapon the more people can be targeted.
Again: Do you really think it is a war, as is advertised, against an
inanimate thing as "drugs"?
And not even the control of drugs---at any immediate price---to control the
ultimately far greater value of controlling drugs as a weapon?
In Mexico, twenty-five dollars can pay to have a human killed over 'any'
thing. Even less.
Do you really think that reducing the price of a bag of marijuana, or 'any
'thing else, to less than twenty-five dollars will stop certain people from
taking twenty-five dollars to kill someone for 'any' thing?
All they need is "twenty-five dollars" and the permission from their
"lord," to kill.
Those "lords" don't care what the utlitmate "thing" is. Why should you?
>>
>> According to you, the people who have decided to descend to killing and
>> torturing each other to death, over money---no matter the source---can some
>> how be equated with it being caused by, or to even reduce, the prison terms
>> of users?
>>
>>> as would anyone who ever had to watch
>>> one of those stupid pot-makes-you-shoot-your-friends commercials.
>>
>> Instead of those who do to push whatever vice; and, though such commercial
>> yet exists, those who allow themselves to be such willing casualties to the
>> deliberate weapons drugs can be used for and are being used for?
>>
>>> And what exactly can Washington, or any level of government, do about
>>> demand?
>>
>> Fall for Mexico's ploy to extract even more free U.S. dollars and arms, by
>> having American agree with Mexico's mafia: blame my father, my mother, my
>> sister, my neighbors---all who shun drugs and whatever vice---because in
>> Mexico persons are willing to kill and even torture to death over the
>> control of any vice? Lucre from any source to, in reality, market it
>> anywhere including Mexico? Even there as a weapon now too?
>>
>> Because lunk-heads like you peddle such delusions to think that Mexico's
>> War is 'as advertised'? Like some old American gangster movie over drugs?
>>
>> Not any and every vice? In Mexico, welcome cover for even suppressing the
>> most rightful dissent? Even a rightful revolt against the very government
>> that is Mexico's mafia as even factionalized and warring with each other as
>> those factions have become?
>>
>> A war over the control of all lucre that has turned not only into a Civil
>> War, always undercurrent in the so-called Republic of Mexico (City's), but
>> also now a war of Secession (always undercurrent in the so-called Republic
>> of Mexico (City's) also? From Mexico City: that city's so-called
>> "governance"?
>>
>> A war growing more gruesome by the day and would be happening even if the
>> U.S.A. did not exist?
>>
>> It's is "Americans" fault?
>>
>> Even if Mexico did not exist, the U.S. should, and must, come down on the
>> drug sales in the U.S.---though, given that Mexico does exist, beginning
>> with and in the immediate vicinities of the Mexican Consulates themselves.
>
> Only if they legalize the sale of USA produced drugs to US citizens
> will the suppression of sales of externally produced drugs ever succeed.
No it won't. It will only cause even more potent and debilitating drugs to
be created for marketing.
The enemy is not the drugs themselves or even those who fall victim to
drugs.
The enemy is those who will 'push' drugs or whatever else at 'any' price.
>>> People have been altering their consciousnesses with
>>> substances for millenia.
>>
>> So stop altering your's and other's with your advertising Mexico's War as
>> merely a War on Drugs; and "Americans to blame."
>>
>> Mexico and Mexicans are first and foremost responsible for Mexico.
>>
>> Mexico and Mexicans are first and foremost responsible for even their
>> ill-intentions toward the U.S.A. and Americans---users or not.
>
> later
Any time.
> bliss
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