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   XPost: alt.politics, alt.politics.usa   
   From: bliss@sfo.com   
      
   elizabeth wrote:   
   > On May 29, 2:59 pm, M_P  wrote:   
   >> On May 28, 8:37 pm, elizabeth  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On May 28, 3:48 pm, px...@cadence.com (Pete nospam Zakel) wrote:   
   >>>> In article <5c171e9a-86bd-4bac-8c66-7b3d97bda...@w40g2000yq   
   .googlegroups.com> elizabeth  writes:   
   >>>>> I would legalize growing and consuming, but not buying or selling.   
   >>>> If you do not legalize buying and selling you will still have a black   
   market.   
   >>> WRong.  It's not the "black market" that is the problem, it's   
   >>> organized crime that is the problem with pot in California.   
   >> And when the market is "black" organized crime will step in ... which   
   >> is why buying and selling need to be legalized.   
   >   
   > *sigh*   
   > I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.   
   > I want to return to what we had before the taxation laws.   
   > When it was mostly Southern blacks who grew and smoked their own.   
   > Like in the UK at the time, it was Indians who smoked their hash.   
   > Or Chinese smoking there opium here in SF (BTW, after opiates were   
   > made criminal, opium dens in SF operated for many years.  They didn't   
   > charge for opium, they charged for the amount of time one spent in the   
   > "dens".  Sf is like that.  Before 1967 when Gov Reagan signed the   
   > Abortion Act into law, with funding that paid for the abortions of   
   > poor women [it was cheaper than welfare], quite a few highly respected   
   > OB/GYNs ran a cash only abortion racket.  Their prices were high, but   
   > they were pros.  Quite safe.  And they all got yachts at St Francis   
   > Yacht Club paid for. Every so often, an outsider would try to undercut   
   > their prices, and the docs all ganged up on the newbie and narced him   
   > out to the SFPD).   
   >   
   > I do NOT want pot commodified and marketed.  Because that is promoting   
   > it.  I don't approve of advertising prescription drugs.  It has led,   
   > as the pharmcorps wanted, a huge increase in patient demand which   
   > doctors often can't do much about, realistically, which enriched the   
   > corps but have cost consumers a lot for drugs that probably weren't in   
   > the patient's best interests,  and caused a great deal of morbidity   
   > and mortality.  Pot is about the only thing used medicinally and   
   > recreationally (let us now use proper terminology.  Marijuana is not a   
   > drug.  It is a herb that is used medicinally and recreationally.   
   > marinol is a drug.  by mislabeling pot as a drug, the opponents of   
   > legal abortion are "defending the indefensible"  See Politics and the   
   > English Language, by Orwell.   
   >   
   > Why do we always fall right into the leghold traps of capitalism?  Why   
   > not for once just share and barter?   
   >   
   > The difference between my plan and your plan is like the difference   
   > between having sex with someone you love and fucking a prostitute.   
   > Commercialization is the evil, not the plant.  And since it would be   
   > almost impossible, with legalization, to stop people like me from   
   > growing, the corps don't want it, because they want to have complete   
   > control over production and pricing.   
   >   
   > The users must control the means of production.  It's the profiteers   
   > who destroy society, look what they did to the us economy,  They are   
   > the problem of just about everything, parasites who feel entitled to   
   > make you support them without actually providing any goods or   
   > services.   
   >   
   > They have lots of lobbyists.  Pot advocates have a bunch of fuckwits,   
   > pimps, drugthugs, and shysters who like things they way they are.   
   > That's why the corps win and the people lose.   
   >   
   > Sheesh.  Don't bother learning history just let it repeat itself.   
      
   	Time does not turn back.  I also don't approve of drug advertising,   
   but it would take radical re-interpretation of the   
   Constitution to permit restraint on commercial speech.   
      
   	Making a profit does not destroy society as the profit   
   go toward goals that the people who spend the money on the things   
   they consider desirable may not perceive as well as providing   
   taxes for the government's goals which may be quite ill.   
      
   	Anslinger was happy to lock up those poor Blacks and   
   Hispanics who in days of yore provided users with the cannabis.   
   Read "Really the Blues" by Mezz Mezzrow a Jewish Jazz musician   
   who dealt to his compeers in the 1930s to see how people   
   were treated in what you consider a good time,   
      
   	Don't idealize the past but learn from it and try to   
   work to change the future to a more civilized mode.   
      
   	later   
   	bliss   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)