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   Message 69,794 of 71,631   
   Billzz to B Sellers   
   Re: Ahhnold's plan to close CA parks wil   
   10 Jun 09 21:58:18   
   
   XPost: alt.california, ca.politics, alt.drugs   
   XPost: alt.drugs.pot   
   From: billzzstring@starband.net   
      
   "B Sellers"  wrote in message   
   news:79be9iF1pua7kU1@mid.individual.net...   
   > Brooklyn ain't blue wrote:   
   >> On 10 Jun 2009, never@millions.com posted some   
   >> news:h1t035tucscr08o3u846lp5ohi3vl213b9@4ax.com:   
   >>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:56:23 -0700, "Billzz"   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> "Tim Howard"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:4a306172$0$23764$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...   
   >>>>> There is already a problem with people growing marijuana on public   
   >>>>> lands, but if the Governator gets his way and closes the parks the   
   >>>>> problem will skyrocket.  Most state parks are not gated and for   
   >>>>> those that are, it is still easy to get in most of them.  Without   
   >>>>> tourists, campers and park employees, drug dealers will run ramped   
   >>>>> in them.  And I am not just talking about pot, I mean hard drugs   
   >>>>> like speed.  If homeless can build makeshift buildings and campsites   
   >>>>> in wooded parks when they are open and go undetected for a long   
   >>>>> time, then don't you think drug dealers can set up meth labs?  Some   
   >>>>> park employees are speaking out about this.  Hopefully the voters of   
   >>>>> Kalefonia will get their representatives to stop this short-sighted   
   >>>>> idea to save money, because the costs will far outweigh any savings   
   >>>>> a few years down the road.  No matter what you think of drugs (and I   
   >>>>> favor decriminalization and for some, legalization), they do not   
   >>>>> belong in our CA State Parks.   
   >>>> That's a good point, and worthy of a letter to the editor of the   
   >>>> Sacramento Bee.  Someone will read it   
   >>> In Sacramento, political folks read a lot but understand little.   
   >>>   
   >>> DCI   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> It's just noise to put pressure on the Democrats.  They're responsible   
   >> for the fiscal mess anyway.  The Caliphonya legislature voted against   
   >> every measure that would restrict or reduce spending in the last six   
   >> years.  The were responsible for the de-regulation mess that cost Gray   
   >> Davis his job too.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   > Oh and when have the Republicans allowed tax measures to go   
   > forward?  The present California Republican legislators are wanting   
   > to run the state government out of business so they will be unfettered   
   > in the exploitation of the States remaining resources.  They want to   
   > cut down the timber in the state parks and open up reserved areas   
   > to development. IMO.   
   >   
   > later   
   > bliss   
      
   Barbra Streisand had a property, close to the coast, but not quite, that she   
   could not sell for the unheard of price that she wanted, and so the deal was   
   that the state of California would pay some millions, and she would not have   
   to pay taxes, and it would be a park.  Every non-thinking person in the   
   State of California thought that was good.  Gee, we get another public park.   
      
   What it actually meant was that the rest of us are now paying Barbra   
   Streisand's property taxes.  Not only that, we also have to pay for the   
   extra park rangers that the state just had to hire to guard the place   
   against us, the people who are paying for the place.  And, we the people, do   
   not get to go into "our" public park because it actually belongs to the   
   state and the state guards, who have their family picnics whenever they   
   want, while locking you out.  And you have to pay some half-a-hundred   
   dollars to visit "your" park, that you are paying the property taxes on.   
   Isn't that special?   
      
    "They want to cut down the timber in the state parks and open up reserved   
   areas to development."   
      
   So exactly what is so sacrosanct about timber, here or there?  It does grow   
   back you know.  And what is so sacrosanct about *not* having development,   
   where development is warranted?  And what is wrong with the state *making*   
   money instead of spending money?   
      
   The history of the state, and the current conditions, indicate that more and   
   more private property will fall to the state, and fewer and fewer people   
   will be paying taxes, until the few people are unable, and/or leave, and the   
   state implodes.  That is actually what is happening.   
      
   My broker offered me a State of California 6.25% tax-free bond.  I would not   
   touch that.  I do not believe it's any good.  They'll default, and I'll be   
   holding the bag.  That's how they are going to get their taxes, one way, or   
   the other.   
      
   The state of California has done, in the past, everything they could do to   
   chase away private enterprise, and have everyone work for the state.  That's   
   working.  What is not working is who is going to pay for that.   
      
   Cisco systems is building seven large buildings for five thousand workers   
   for their new research center.  It's in Richardson, Texas.  I'll bet you did   
   not read that in any California newspaper.   
      
   The California Development Commission was all fired, and put themselves up   
   for sale, to the highest bidder, in the WSJ.  Like what other state wants to   
   kill economic development?  This is the team for you!   
      
   Fort Ord used to house the US Army 7th Infantry Division, about 15,000   
   troops, all of which had to pay California state taxes.  Now there is hardly   
   any army left in the state, one fort - or air force for that matter - only   
   two bases, and, since California has a coast, there is some navy left.  But   
   the armed forces, who used to contribute many millions, in federal salaries,   
   federal school impact funds, state income taxes, free fuel, and I could go   
   on...  they are all gone.   
      
   Bah.  We retired to California, after living all over the world, and living   
   here, off and on, for many years.  The Sierra Nevada is just as nice.  The   
   people are just as nice.  The politicians are the worst in the world.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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