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   Message 69,821 of 71,631   
   Ollie Clark to Aidy   
   Re: Latest scare: Cannabis alters human    
   18 Jun 09 15:02:01   
   
   XPost: rec.drugs.cannabis, uk.legal, uk.politics.drugs   
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   From: usenet@ollieclark.com   
      
   Aidy wrote:   
   > "Ollie Clark"  wrote in message   
   > news:slrnh3kil6.5b0.usenet@greedy.zen175545...   
   >> What point are you trying to make?   
   >   
   > That people who take illegal drugs have low moral values ergo it is   
   > a common activity among habitual criminals.   
      
   That doesn't show what you think it does.   
      
   For a start, you'll have to define moral values. Then you'd have to show   
   that a representative sample of illegal drug users demonstrably have   
   lower moral values than an otherwise equivalent sample of non-illegal   
   drug users.   
      
   Let's assume that you're right and that illegal drug users do indeed   
   have low moral values. We'll also take for granted that habitual criminals   
   have low moral values.   
      
   All you have shown is that some people with low moral values take illegal   
   drugs and some people with low moral values are habitual criminals. You   
   haven't shown that illegal drugs cause low morals nor have you shown that   
   illegal drugs cause criminality.   
      
   >60% of people in prison were habitual   
   > pre-prison cannabis users and 80% heroin users.   
      
   90% of people in prison were habitual alcohol users pre-prison.   
   99% of them were daily caffeine users.   
      
   What's your point?   
      
   > I guess it *could* just be a coincidence.....   
      
   It's not a coincidence. More prisoners use drugs than the general   
   population. It just doesn't mean much.   
      
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