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   Pete nospam Zakel to Aidy   
   Re: Police seize only 1% of heroin   
   25 Jun 09 14:59:05   
   
   XPost: uk.politics.drugs, uk.legal   
   From: pxhxz@cadence.com   
      
   In article <_5ednVdfvqTIJ97XnZ2dnUVZ8gKdnZ2d@bt.com> "Aidy"  writes:   
   >"M_P"  wrote in message   
   >news:278d52dc-fc02-4ad1-9518-959828ced557@e20g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...   
   >   
   >> According to research cited by the (U.S.) National Academy of   
   >> Science's Institute of Medicine, of those who have used heroin 77%   
   >> have never been dependent on it.   
      
   >I'm not talking about people "who have used", I am talking about people who   
   >*do* use.   
      
   Yes, and not all users are addicts.   
      
   >I'm not talking about "dependent", I'm talking about addicted.  Hardly   
   >anyone who smokes will say they are dependent on cigs and I bet most   
   >alcoholics say they're not dependent on booze....they "just like a drink is   
   >all".   
      
   The majority of alcohol users are not alcoholics.  And there are people who   
   use tobacco who are also not addicted.   
      
   >And of course I can always use the cynic argument that it is less likely   
   >that addicts will submit to these studies so the stats are inaccurate.   
      
   Actually, if you do the research you can find accurate stats.  It is *your*   
   purported stats that aren't accurate, Aidy.   
      
   -Pete Zakel   
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